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originally posted in: Give us 7 Golden Gun shots
12/3/2015 12:57:53 AM
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Your logic is flawed. Tracking on GG would be redundant as there's no travel time; if you aim at someone and fire they cannot dodge. The golden gun obviously wins here. Trip mine is arguably the best granade in the game, you can stick it to players or objects. Trip mine is much better than fusion. And lastly, hunter agility vs titan straight line speed. The hunter give you the most satisfying movement; he can change directions quickly. This is really useful for cover. This is one of the reasons that makes the hunter more enjoyable to play. I would agree that both GG and arc blade need extra time to their supers; as it is now they feel too short.
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  • Edited by remige: 12/3/2015 12:27:08 PM
    Golden gun has 3 (4) shots. It's an instakill. You can throw 7 hammers. It's a high velocity, flying, sunspot-leaving, 'tracking', explosive, hammer. A Hunter is all about agility. Of course we're fast. You can either run a Titan (raw armor) or run a Hunter (raw agility). It's negative both ways. A good gunslinger can kill 3-4 Titans, which is a very rare occurrence. A good Titan can kill 6 golden guns. (I cannot agree with you more that Hunter supers need at least 5 more seconds for use.) It may be that your logic is flawed.

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  • Edited by ALBOBOSS: 12/3/2015 9:51:43 PM
    It's possible that my logic is flawed as I'm not infallible; however you fail to point it out in your post. I targeted specific points in your post and pointed out their flaws. To recap your flaws in the argument: Hammer tracking is not greater than golden gun. See explanation on post above why tracking would be redundant on golden gun. Fusion granade is not greater than trip mine. One can only be stuck on your opponents while the other can be stuck anywhere making it much more versatile. As for speed, you can run a hunter on full armour and he would still be better then a titan when it comes jumping/changing direction while jumping. You claim that a hunter is supposed to be agile and I agree, just as a titan is supposed to be "tanky".

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  • [quote]Hammer tracking is not greater then golden gun. See explanation on post above why tracking would be redundant on golden gun.[/quote]Golden guns don't track. Never once have I stated that Golden Gun should track. [quote]Fusion granade is not greater than trip mine. One can only be stuck on your opponents while the other can be stuck anywhere making it much more versatile.[/quote]Tripmine grenade, if anything, is one of the most difficult grenades to use. Therefore, it grants much more damage. It takes planning and precise place meant to get a kill with a Tripmine. You can legitimately kill yourself with Tripmines I you aren't careful enough. Sticking somebody means the grenade could kill you as it detonates on the enemy. If you wait too long, the Tripmine will automatically detonate. If you're close enough to it, you can die. With a fusion grenade, you toss it in a general direction and it'll stick to the target. The only way to get it off is to use blink. A Tripmine emanates a laser. A [b]giant [i]red [u]BEACON[/u][/i][/b]. You can shoot the Tripmine and detonate it. You can't kill yourself with a fusion grenade unless you're standing inside of it. [quote]As for speed, you can run a hunter on full armour and he would still be better then a titan when it comes jumping/changing direction while jumping. You claim that a hunter is supposed to be agile and I agree, just as a titan is supposed to be "tanky".[/quote]On that point, you can max the agility on a Titan and skate around the map with the jump that makes you move faster. Hunters have higher base agility, and Titans have higher base armor. As a Hunter, you wouldn't be able to reach the armor total that Titans have, and vice versa. My fingers hurt.

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  • I don't think you're understanding me. In your original post you mention that HoS is better than GG because the hammers track and golden gun doesn't. GG does not need to track; there's no dodging golden gun if aimed correctly. It's an instant kill. With all granades you risk the chance of dying if you're close to the detonation. I can say one thing for sure; I'd much rather use the trip mine than the fusion. Yes titans can skate but very few know how to. Even if they skate, once they are mid jump they are hopeless bullet sponges where as a hunter can change direction mid air. What I'm saying is that I think a hunter is a much better choice for pvp, save for the super. That's why most of the top players prefer it over other classes.

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