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12/3/2015 4:43:29 PM
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Sure. Then give golden gun incredibly reduced range, no combustion, make gravity have a huge effect on golden gun projectiles, no throwing knives, no tripmines, and each shot takes away a large chunk of your super
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Combustion or rocket launcher like explosive radius? Dodging a single hammer vertically or horizontally is as hard as dodging a nova bomb or fist of havoc and those are one offs. They are at least equal. Sure you have some gravity fall off- calling it "huge" is an overstatement. Everyone has seen someone else get cross map hammered. It happens. But you also have slight tracking which golden gun certainly doesn't have. The lack of instant shotting actually helps the hammers tracking get closer to the target. I see where you're coming from but it's not as analogous as you're making it out to be. Ps. If you use combustion, the golden gun (effective) range is severely reduced also.
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Edited by ScrewLogic: 12/3/2015 5:02:26 PM[quote] Dodging a single hammer vertically or horizontally is as hard as dodging a nova bomb[/quote] What......??
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You heard what I said, there's no evade, including a Shadestep and better control backward jump that can escape a hammer blast radius, it's essentially 5-7 rockets with the blast radius it has. At least equal to golden gun combustion radius except hunters have to take a huge accuracy hit when not using dead eye in favor of combustion
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[quote] The lack of instant shotting actually helps the hammers tracking get closer to the target[/quote] Um... what? You're saying you can outrun a golden gun shot but not a slow moving (relative of course) projectile such as a hammer? Tracking isn't like the truth... or like any rocket for that matter.
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I'm saying that golden gun is instant. Hit scan. If you miss, you miss. Hammer is slower moving but has tracking, so if you miss, you might NOT miss. You following? That's not even including the blast radius that's already huge
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Tracking on hammer is complete crap though, using it really gives you no advantage. Look up sunbreaker breakdown videos and you'll see how mediocre it is.
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I wasn't trying to say it's as good as a rockets or anything, I'm merely trying to say that the original comment is not as closely mirrored as he says. And I'm just trying to have a discussion, not trying to make anyone wrong or anything.
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I'm just arguing that tracking shouldn't even be considered an advantage for hammer since it doesn't really do anything.
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I think I disagree, and only because of the blast radius on the hammer detonations, they are so big that even a little bit of tracking can go a long way on a slightly errant throw that would not be forgiven by a slight miss with golden gun. It's not like combustion adds blast radius, you still have to hit the target to make people go boom, not just throw hammers at your feet and get the kill plus health and shield regen.. Nah
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Well played
