[i]Don't know what a Synth is? Open the spoiler to find out and join the debate![/i]
[spoiler]A Synth can be described as a humanoid robot and can range from simple, autonomous robots that just follow orders (think of foot soldiers or servants) to Coursers, Synths that are capable of learning, critical thinking and something close to free will. There are also a model of Synths that are capable of free will. For instance, some synths escape the facility they are made in and go on to live outside the institute. Others stay in there for their whole "lives". If I had to make a direct reference to pop culture, some synths are like Blenders, simply made to follow orders and do so without a second thought, others are like the original Terminators or C-3PO, capable of thought, learning and free will.[/spoiler]
Now that we are all caught up, let's see both sides of the argument.
[b][u]Synths are people[/u][/b]
Synths, although made in a lab, obviously display human like qualities. Some even can be described as feeling a sensation similar to pain. Some are capable of thought and free will, as demonstrated by Gabriel, the Synth you have to track down after meeting Father in the institute. Gabriel obviously didn't want to be there and that took conscious thought to make a decision like that. One can only describe this as free will.
In addition, Coursers are perfect examples that Synths are humans without flesh and blood. They can learn, critically think, and make decisions based on their perception of free will. They can even be trained, a quality a living person cultivates, not a robot. So it goes without saying that Synths are people and should choose to stay or go.
[b][u]Synths are robots[/u][/b]
Synths are not Humans. They aren't flesh and blood, they have little sense of actual morality (as depicted by Gabriel). Synths are different from most human rights arguments because they are [i]made in a lab[/i]. They weren't born, they don't have mothers, they're robots. And as such, they are property of whoever made them.
The argument that some have "free will" is kind of ridiculous in that you need things like a brain, emotions or even a soul to have free will. Not to mention, most synths outside the Institute are inherently violent, especially since they are physically superior to humans. They are a danger.
[b][u]My opinion in short[/u][/b]
Gen 3 Synths (the ones that can critically think for themselves and feel emotion), should be subject to basic human rights, whatever they may be in the Commonwealth. As long as they aren't a danger, the Institute should let any Synths the escape or desire to leave go. It is there responsibility to make sure their "residents" are happy where they are.
No mother would [i]force[/i] her children to stay at the house, so what's the different here?
So what do you think, [i]Synths robots or people[/i]?
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I feel that gen 3 synths should be given human rights. Gen 1-2 are too robotic and can only do creators want them to. However, gen 3 synths with wiped memories (or exceptions like Nick Valentine) have showed the ability to think for themselves, take their own actions, and do what they think is right. Even though a few synths can make bad choices like the gang leader, don't we all. Even Curie said when she entered a synth body that she could feel emotion when you romance her. The sheer fact that synths can show free-will and emotion after a mind wipe proves they are alive despite not being an "ideal" human.
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I feel that Gen 3 synths should not be considered fully robot or fully human, each one seems to be a special case. Gens 1 and 2 are obviously robotic.
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Haven't we been here before with Philip K Dick and Blade Runner's replicants?
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Nope and I'll exterminate any I come across. Exceptions of Nick and Curie
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Since Synths were physically built and engineered, they are robots.
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They are like Humans in every single way. That is why we treat them like objects. There needs to be a distinction. The Institute is about preserving the Human Race, not changing it.
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Everyone go to Netflix open up Star Trek The Next Generation, go to Season 2 Episode 9 called The measure of a man.. In the episode Picard has to prove that Data is a sentient being. Data is an android with human qualities and who has free will and capable of thoughts. Watch the episode and come back.
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Gen 3 Synth Lives Matter. Maxson can go down with his ship.
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Syths are manufactured and display predetermined "emotions". They can't actually feel anything
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How can synths be people if people aren't people?
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I don't feel like Nick Valentine can be used for proof because he was a prototype with the mind of a pre-war cop placed in him. Bit of a special case there since he has an actual human mind.
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If I can put my dick in it, I don't care.
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Patrolling the Mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter
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Not all synths are created equal.
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Danse and sturges are both synths
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Not human, they have a capacity to think they are human, but those are programmed/predetermined thoughts developed in a lab.
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If there is no noticeable difference in the function of a synth mind and the function of a human mind, barring trivial aspects like shutdown codes, which are irrelevant, then there is no logical reason to consider them to be equivalent to any given "robot" in terms of definition or ethics. Being against this is deceiving yourself as a comfort for when you treat them like toys. If you are going to create synths for the betterment of humanity and use them as tools without remorse, at least recognize the reality of it.
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Synths are a threat to humanity if left unchecked. They were created for the betterment of humans, and that's their sole purpose. It really is that simple.
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By an operational definition, Synths would be people. Not human by any means, but certainly people. The same argument can be applied to the machine-people in Soma. They are definitely not human, but they are people.
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Anyone interested in this should go watch Ex Machina immediately.
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Synths are not people. By definition they are robots. How is this an argument? People are really dumb these days.
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..both
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OP IS FILTHY SYNTH (づಠ╭͜ʖ╮ಠ)づ UNCLE MOE WILL DESTROY YOU
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"If after all theyve done to them, and they still cant determine if theyre a robot or not, thats human enough for me " -Honest Dan I think Gen 3 can be considered human in a way, i mean, looking at Harkness from Fallout 3, gen 3 are more or less human, anything before that though, i dont know
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Gen 3 are practically human Gen 2 are like Codsworth, Curie, etc... Gen 1 are basically securitrons So, Gen 3's and most 2's are free Gen 1 are robots Halt production of any more synths
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Synths are robots, however they're too intelligent and self aware to be treated as property.