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Edited by Lost Sols:
12/15/2015 6:02:42 AM
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Petition to remove Trials of Osiris from the game (not #satire)
Let me start by saying that I have absolutely nothing against the game mode itself other than its lack of matchmaking, but unfortunately the players who participate in Trials continually destroy the game for everyone else. I know it's a radical suggestion to remove an entire game type because of player behavior, but I'm not sure anyone is going to want to keep playing the shell of a game that Trials players leave the rest of us.
The problem is and always will be nerfs.
Since Trials inception, it has easily been the single biggest contributor to nerf posts on these forums.
- Thorn was essentially erased from this game because of Trials.
- Hand Cannons were AR'd because of Trials.
- Pulse Rifles just got boned [i]because of Trials[/i].
- Sunbreakers were probably doomed anyway, but the loudest cries for nerfs... Trials.
And as bad as all those were, now I'm seeing posts crying that Trials matches aren't fair because of MIDA and Truth.
Seriously go find a Chinese hell to burn in if you're going to cry about MIDA and Truth. The point of this game was supposed to be becoming more powerful and finding more powerful and awesome weapons. MIDA has [i]always[/i] been a great counter to any "God weapon" in this game, not because it's OP, but because it's so well balanced and versatile from mid to long range.
But rather than find counters like MIDA, rather than grind for your own "God weapons" if you feel you can't compete, rather than get fracking good, we've systematically destroyed every weapon and class that was ever fun in this game.
Go shoot a goddamn Fusion Rifle. They're complete garbage. Collateral damage from the constant dicking over of weapons, all to "balance" one stupid PvP mode that almost no one plays.
Someone post those pathetic numbers they put up a month or so ago about how few players actually compete in ToO and the infinitesimal number that have actually gone to the Lighthouse.
So we're going to have all our weapons ruined in not only PvP, but PvE as well so probably less than 5% of the player base don't cry? I just don't get your thought process here Bungie.
I can tell you this though, there's not one reasonable or remotely valid reason to nerf Truth, MIDA or Scouts and if that unbelievably stupid thought crosses Jon Wisnewski's mind then it's time to pull the plug on Trials.
And to anyone who enjoys Trials, I'm sorry but there would be no one to blame but yourselves. Better you lose your game mode than be allowed to keep dragging the rest of this game down with your incessant crying for nerfs.
EDIT: Just to clarify because I'm being accused of having put up nerf posts [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/Default/None/%23realbalanceisnotbalanced]#realbalanceisnotbalanced[/url]
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Stopped reading when you blamed nerfs on trials.
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2 RepliesI don't know how much that would solve. In a Destiny without ToO, I still see Crucibabies crying out nerf on weapons deemed "OP" because people don't have enough skill to counter by their own means. You do have a point though. Trials is much more competitive than regular Crucible, meaning more frustration from losing and amplified cries for nerf as a result.
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Honestly man people rage guns never needed a nerf people just needed to adapt. But thats todays generation of gamers lazy whiney entitled sissies. I mean really it seems half of the community is under twelve n the other half is under 15. If im wrong the world needs help. Guns are suppose to kill and be fun to use. The nerfs not only ruined pvp aspects of guns but also the pve. To me pvp should be completely seperate from pve. I use to be a hand cannon user I miss my handcannons now. Ive watched really well balanced guns be turned to shit because a fraction of the community cries. The funniest shit is these nerf babies are never happy just about every weapon class has been knocked down because of nerf babies
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2 RepliesEdited by LONE RONIN2012: 12/16/2015 12:16:24 PMNerfs in this game are one reason, of several, I stopped playing. The game is too unreliable from them all.
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Edited by SpacemanSpff434: 12/16/2015 6:30:58 PMAnd now people want tlw nerfed. Nothing real was done to the gun. It's been nerfed to hell by past nerfs. The ads boost is not driving use. The gun rose to the top again because it's great in cqb. That's it. That's all that gun is good for. But because it's being used in trials with success nerf babies want it nerfed. To what? How much more can be taken from this gun? And snipers? Snipers need a nerf? Guy. If you pop me in the head with a sniper... Respect. Fine. I'll learn from it. But no, I like trials. I fail most times but love the challenge. I'd prefer to keep it and have this auto post show up anytime someone asks for a nerf: "Thank you for your feedback. We see you asked for a nerf. Most players are against nerfs and in all honesty people like you are ruining the game. Might we suggest you stop being such a bitch and maybe try to over come the challenge? Thank you."
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[u][b]Bump![/b][/u]
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Here is bump number 4 for you
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5 RepliesYoure basically asking them to take out the only reason about 50% of us still play. Posting this was a bad idea in general
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I agree that all these shitty nerfs shouldn't happen ...BUFF other guns up to the supposed "op" weapons
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3 RepliesNailed it again but it'll never happen. Bungie wants to pretend Destiny has competitive pvp.
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You just suck balls at trials
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1 ReplyGreat Post!
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Sure wouldn't hurt my feelings. Never seemed like a good idea to me to lock hefty rewards behind a ambiguous difficulty level. I'm all for competition, but there are just too many variables that aren't under the players control (connection, light lvl, etc) for ToO to be a healthy element of the game.
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Edited by sonny2dap: 12/16/2015 9:37:43 AMthe idea of competitive Destiny is flawed, PVP is a fun mode but that is all it will ever be, Destiny's design is inherently unbalanced any attempts to balance it ultimately result in the dwindling of it's popularity.
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Oh I will sign this probably like 7 times
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10 Repliesoff topic, you should be able to attain ToO gear from doing PvE bounties for brother Vance along with IB IMO
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1 ReplyTrending and 600 replies and not a peep from Bungie lol
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Scout rifles are hands down the best in this game since launch
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1 ReplyYou mean remove raids from destiny
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Edited by Black-Star_32: 12/16/2015 2:14:15 PMEither split the balance by making pvp only changed and PvE only changes or remove trials and any other modes that encourages cheating and crying nerf to win. Or simply make trials multiple game types and remove elimination completely. Three possible game types, death match, rift, and zone control, 3vs3
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550 +
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4 RepliesTrials should be 6v6.
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2 RepliesIt's a game mode you don't have to play.
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i dont mind Trials, but annoys me it's all snipers there, not really a fun game mode, i avoid it if possible.
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8 RepliesI agree with the reasons, gladly. Unfortunately, I don't agree with the topic. To be honest, Trials is for those hardcore PVP players that want the best of the best for there efforts, just like raids with PVE players. Don't get me wrong. You're absolutely right. I agree with the nerfs and all, but I don't think ToO is the problem: It's the maps. As we are all aware, each weapon type has a specific range where it's most effective: HC: Close - Close Medium range AR -Close Medium Range PR - Medium -Medium long range SR - Long Range However, when a map is chosen, there are many places in that map that are lenient toward the ranges of a certain weapon. MIDA, or scout rifles in general, are pretty much effective in any range, giving them a good edge over many primary weapons. However, some weapons were OP that those were used instead. So MIDA was like the unsung hero. Now, all the weapons, and you can quote me here, actually seem balanced (except AR's, o I probably just suck with those. XD) But due to MIDA's range benefits, it's the ultimate weapon of pure versatility. But I'm not saying it should be nerfed: Trials is Osiris should have multiple maps every week, preferably ones of all ranges. It would allow weapons like HC and PR to get in areas where their respective ranges work best, and other places that put MIDA at a disadvantage. It would allow players to always adapt. In all honesty, I don't want ToO to be removed. I can definitely see why, but even so, it's a little humiliating and stupid to remove the hardest activity in the game just because you can't balance your own weapons. Although to be fair, Destiny balance is a lot harder than others, since they're so many weapons and variables. Anyway, great post, But I'm against you this time. BRING IT ON YOU BASTARD! (Don't take that seriously.) -[i]The guy with no house.[/i]
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If they nerf Mida for any reason it's time to pull the plug on this game. Jon needs to learn two things, how to do math, and the difference between a buff and a nerf for my poor fusions.
