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Edited by Lost Sols:
12/15/2015 6:02:42 AM
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Petition to remove Trials of Osiris from the game (not #satire)
Let me start by saying that I have absolutely nothing against the game mode itself other than its lack of matchmaking, but unfortunately the players who participate in Trials continually destroy the game for everyone else. I know it's a radical suggestion to remove an entire game type because of player behavior, but I'm not sure anyone is going to want to keep playing the shell of a game that Trials players leave the rest of us.
The problem is and always will be nerfs.
Since Trials inception, it has easily been the single biggest contributor to nerf posts on these forums.
- Thorn was essentially erased from this game because of Trials.
- Hand Cannons were AR'd because of Trials.
- Pulse Rifles just got boned [i]because of Trials[/i].
- Sunbreakers were probably doomed anyway, but the loudest cries for nerfs... Trials.
And as bad as all those were, now I'm seeing posts crying that Trials matches aren't fair because of MIDA and Truth.
Seriously go find a Chinese hell to burn in if you're going to cry about MIDA and Truth. The point of this game was supposed to be becoming more powerful and finding more powerful and awesome weapons. MIDA has [i]always[/i] been a great counter to any "God weapon" in this game, not because it's OP, but because it's so well balanced and versatile from mid to long range.
But rather than find counters like MIDA, rather than grind for your own "God weapons" if you feel you can't compete, rather than get fracking good, we've systematically destroyed every weapon and class that was ever fun in this game.
Go shoot a goddamn Fusion Rifle. They're complete garbage. Collateral damage from the constant dicking over of weapons, all to "balance" one stupid PvP mode that almost no one plays.
Someone post those pathetic numbers they put up a month or so ago about how few players actually compete in ToO and the infinitesimal number that have actually gone to the Lighthouse.
So we're going to have all our weapons ruined in not only PvP, but PvE as well so probably less than 5% of the player base don't cry? I just don't get your thought process here Bungie.
I can tell you this though, there's not one reasonable or remotely valid reason to nerf Truth, MIDA or Scouts and if that unbelievably stupid thought crosses Jon Wisnewski's mind then it's time to pull the plug on Trials.
And to anyone who enjoys Trials, I'm sorry but there would be no one to blame but yourselves. Better you lose your game mode than be allowed to keep dragging the rest of this game down with your incessant crying for nerfs.
EDIT: Just to clarify because I'm being accused of having put up nerf posts [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/Default/None/%23realbalanceisnotbalanced]#realbalanceisnotbalanced[/url]
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Remove the rest of the game instead
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5 RepliesI disagree is not the Trials players us the whole PvP community. Bungie should just take PvP out of the game. Put more effort in better bigger coop game modes. Ple tu of Ideas like "defend the wall" have being around for a while. PvP is destroying Destiny.
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bump. What gusto. :)
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1 ReplyAbsolutely agree. Nerfing should never have been the answer. Particularly when it's in response to some chronic complainers that simply can't (or won't) adjust their play style, can't or won't learn situational awareness, and constantly blame the weapons for their own failures to adapt, and refuse to recognize that they'd be killed regardless of what weapon was used because they failed to read the situation yet again. If Bungie continues to nerf based on the few, they'll have nobody left except those few ... who will never be happy anyway.
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6 RepliesSigned but I'd rather see pvp as a whole removed from this game
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1 ReplyAgreed, entire weapon classes have been destroyed because of one game mode. The level of crying ppl do over guns on these forms is unrealistic. Most of them aren't even substantiated claims. Most are little kids crying because some guy had good aim and a steady hand or was able to actually adjust tactics on the fly. I am by no means a PvP wonder kid but never once have I bitched over guns. Especially not in game were the programmers are to bone headed to separate the two modes. PvP changes should NEVER effect how they function in PvE. Yet Bungle can't seem to figure this out or they are incapable. Pick one.
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Yess! Bump
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Edited by bobbyblaze: 12/15/2015 6:12:28 PMTrials was a bullshit idea from the start. No matchmaking killed it for the majority. However, I can't see them removing it as Bungie loves to cater to elitists.
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3 RepliesI love MIDA. Loved it since I saw my bestie using it in the Cosmodrome. (Fell in love with how it sounds, too, and I use it so much that the *normal* Scout Rifles sound odd to me.) I know for a fact that I frustrated a multitude of TLW-, Thorn-, and sniper-users in Crucible, simply because of MIDA's stability. I could nail down headshots like no other! (Or so it seemed to me.) MIDA is one of - if not [i]the[/i] - most balanced weapons in the game. I honestly hate that it's become so common since it came forward. Partially because I just love being a special snowflake, but mostly because I rely so heavily on it. (Which is also a piss-poor excuse, but this is one instance where I've tried very hard to adapt to other things and have been unable to do so. I found MIDA back in Year 1 and wondered how I ever lived without it; it's a wonderful weapon.)
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1 ReplyEdited by Aciurgy: 12/15/2015 6:15:47 PMThis dude gets it. Almost everyone on destiny is 2 faced as a mother -blam!-er!! Grow the -blam!- up and stop raging. Your about to ruin my favorite game. Hell everyone's game, every YouTube's game.practice so you don't -blam!-ing suck. If you didn't practice and complained about every -blam!-ing gun in the game. Gtfo you don't have the mindset for this game. Go play cod where you can get made fun of and get the attention you need. I got this for my birthday which was a month ago and this game is already turning to shit. Its like a -blam!-ing playground where everything gets kick over like a sand castle. You guys are practically telling the makers of halo that you don't do enough and your horrible developers. Every ones saying pulses rifles need a nerf when the just got one. Do you want its damage to be 0 and hawkmoon to be a 1 shot kill in the crucible. What do you want? I wanna see you Christmas list! -blam!-ing brats and aren't most of you 18 and 20+?
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I read the posts you make every time I don't always agree with them but this 1 I defiantly do. My biggest gripe about trials is the spawn sniping when reviving it's the biggest pile of crap going in trials imo.
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Edited by iDovahBear: 12/15/2015 6:36:57 PMI could get behind this. I like Crucible modes like Mayhem better anyways. Not that Mayhem should be used as a standard for balancing, don't twist my words. But Bungie only ever refers to the 'sandbox,' which to me seems to be a 3d arena with predetermined range markers to help them determine whether the current build 'feels right.' Their judgement always seems to change based on some sort of evidence they never really provide. They just sort of expect it to be 'tolerable,' long enough for them to find a decent balance.
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I hate to admit it, but I agree aswell, the fact people are finally crying about mida
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Thorn was bad anyhow, Sumbreaker too, but Trials was a catalyst. Also the fact that it creates such an "elitist" feeling to the PvP
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I wholeheartedly agree.
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I fully agree with this. it seems there "balancing" everything for PvP and forgetting about the PvE were most of the guns now hardly make a dent. Honestly tho sunbreakers were a bit annoying but they were manageable but now with the massive De-Buff there trash.
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2 RepliesTrials essentially just creates a problem for all normal players. The lighthouse isn't even worth going to. The games are too long for too little reward. And everyone has the same strat. And whenever people bitch about guns in trials they get -blam!-ing destroyed. Shotguns are unusable because the community got enough people to bitch about it. Mainly from trials. I really hate how they call trials competitive as well. I'm sorry but any game with aim assist automatically isn't competitive. Trials is just too shitty to keep playing. I wouldn't say take it out rather I think they should overhaul it
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8 RepliesEdited by CarnivalLaw: 12/15/2015 4:16:08 AMHoly shit, I love this -blam!-ing post. Always found it ironic that the players who consider themselves the elite, are the biggest babies when they get lit-up. Though, I would stand by what I've always said in the face of PvP hate (which is not what you're doing here): Bungie, and Bungie alone, chooses which cries to listen to, and which weapons to ruin as a result.
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3 RepliesIt's true. Weapon nerfs are a direct result of Trials. Most of us were happy with most of the weapons that got nerfd. They're ruining weapons(and supers) for the rest of us. Your PVP/PVE experience is being negatively affected to keep trials participants happy.
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7 RepliesNever played trials and never will. The whole concept of it never appealed to me. Lack of matchmaking especially.
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#salty
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Well, I don't expect to go to the Lighthouse Why should I get my stuff Nerfed to cater to a minority event that I'm not in? Alright, get rid of it
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Signed.
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Signed, just because the reactions from the ToO hardcores would be amusing.
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11 RepliesEdited by Forsz: 12/15/2015 6:22:55 AMDefinitely a bump; not to remove this game mode entirely, but to remove the flawless aspect and culture that's been developed. Rewarding players for elitism. It's absolutely been the most corrosive element introduced into this game. All "balancing" revolves around it. Promotes cheating at its worst. It's a fun mode, but a huge fail for bungie overall. It's driven more players away than those it's kept. Time for this to change. Bungie is totally blind to it's player base and core gamers.
