I know we are a week later and the Oryx challenge is live, but I tried finding answers to THESE specific questions but couldn't find any posts that helped. A little background, me and my fireteam are only 4 and we learn to 4 man the raids and then keep trying until we get it done. So far we have been able to 4 man KF a few times. We were able to 4 man the War Priest challenge. But after using the EXACT specifications that we saw last week for the Golgoroth challenge, we did not complete the challenge. Keep in mind this is NORMAL mode. Our method was the modified challenge mode 1 orb strat (only way I saw to 4 man it): 1) Of course 2 left/2 right, kill adds, make sure we had supers filled. 2) First 3 players take turns grabbing the gaze, while 3rd man is taking it, first 2 work on front left orb, then 4th takes it as orb is shattered. 3) First 3 jump into pit, we had one stormcaller activate super to clear out explosive thrall and any new ones that appear, the gaze man used a shadowshot tether, the other 2 are in the pool of light doing damage with black spindles (1 was titan with WoL bubble behind pool). 4) Once timer is done, jump out. I was stormcaller as well, so used stormtrance to clear the next wave of adds on my side to make orbs for the other stormcaller and the nightstalker to recharge supers. 5) Repeat. It took a few tries but we managed to get the kill with only 2 damage players in the pit, the tether and WoL were key in getting it done. HOWEVER, WE DID NOT GET THE CHALLENGE COMPLETED. A friend of one of our fireteam members told him his fireteam got it done EXACTLY how we did it but they had a full 6 man fireteam. So that leads to these questions that I can't seem to find an answer for: 1) Did this challenge REQUIRE 6 fireteam members/6 different gaze takers? (if so I can see why we failed right there) 2) If not, does it still require 6 different gaze takers? (even if with 4, two would be "repeats") 3) Are there any other requirements I did not mention in our setup? (i.e. different damage men, different 4th gaze taker, etc) It seems we fulfilled the requirements that I saw posted many times here on the forums. I viewed a few youtube videos to verify that others were getting the challenge done this way, albeit with a 6 man team. But we didn't get the challenge credit. Any help from some nice guardians in the community would be great. Thank you much. UPDATE 12/16: It seems the general consensus is that the completion logic for the Golgoroth challenge is only satisfied with a 6 man team completing it. Multiple responses indicate the same thing happened to them on 5 man teams and as soon as they picked up a 6th person and beat it the same way that they got the credit. I wish Bungie would rework it so your 5 man or 4 man fireteam could get completion credit because IMO it's harder to finish the challenge with less members. Hopefully by next challenge. Thank you all for being kind enough to respond to all that did.