I don't really see that much of a problem with it. Besides being a bit long, they're very easy to run away from. Sunbreaker, you couldn't even run away from very effectively, mostly because of their range. But Stormcaller's are pretty easily avoidable, especially with the design of most of the newer maps.

You thought we were wrong? Hunters want everything nerfed what did you expect?

I think storm callers are fine, but hey guess what some hunters are asking for storm caller nerf. Some titans are asking for storm caller nerfs. Yea let's blame everything on one subclass cause that's what solves problems. Blame them one group. [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/182438885/0/0 [/url]

I am pretty much through with this forum and this game. The company, the crybabies, and the fanboys in this community are making this game a complete -blam!-ing mess. You have the developers that can't seem to get it in their thick -blam!-ing skulls what the players really want and instead hash out worse and worse updates, nerfing anything that benefits the players, and shoving micro-transactions down everyone's throats under the guise of an event that is "for the players", but only offers two maps to play on. Oh and let's not forget the complete debacle with the patch notes that, somehow, went unnoticed for a -blam!-ing month (more like they made a huge mistake and rather than fix they just changed the notes). Also, "Here's a new event every other month, hope this holds you over til Destiny Year 3". You have the crybabies that want to do nothing but whine about this weapon or super being overpowered, and no it wasn't this year that this shit started either. Ever since year one people have been complaining that having a self-rez is bullshit in PVP, Blade Dancer was OP, and Fist of Havoc/shoulder charge should be nerfed. Auto-rifles, which were the main thing used in the beginning, were complained about more than any other weapon (even more than Thorn and TLW). What's worse is most of the people complaining are either terrible at the game or -blam!-ing try hards that had a bad game or two and decided to bitch about to the whole community. They don't want things to be balanced, because if it were balanced then there would be nothing for them to complain about when they absolutely bite it in PVP. Then you have the fanboys who blindly defend every little last thing the company does. I can understand liking something and defending to a point, but oh man these special troopers go above and beyond what anyone asked. Have the slightest issue with a terrible gift "SHUT THE -blam!- UP YOU UNGRATEFUL TWAT/ASSHOLES/BITCH/Etc./BUNGIE DIDN'T HAVE TO GIVE US ANYTHING SO JUST BE GRATEFUL THAT YOU GOT SOMETHING AT ALL". Have an issue with the DLC or any part of the game, and want a positive change or just don't agree with what they did "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE GAME DON'T -blam!-ING PLAY IT/GO COMPLAIN SOMEWHERE ELSE [b]F[/b]AGGOT.". Got a problem with micro-transaction or level up packs "NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO -blam!-ING BYE IT/IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU/WHY SHOULD YOU CARE."." I will be quite surprised if this game makes it to year 3 and beyond, which saddens me to say because I truly did like this game, but year 2 is just turning out to be a big money grubbing, nerfy, fanboyish mess.

Auto Rifles are for fuccking scrubbish nooble pleb keks that want easy spray and pray kills, but they do need a minor buff to compete with Pulses. Pulses you need to align the burst straight to the head to be effective. They got a well needed nerf, and they're perfectly fine where they're at now. Hand Cannons have to be dead-on accurate. They should have better hip fire accuracy and a little more range drop off. Scouts... well, they're just OP. No matter what you do to scouts, they'll just be scouts. Shotguns are better, for the most part I'd say. I don't see much aggressive players anymore, but there's still that occassional tiger that wants to believe shotguns are still meta af. Snipers need to be addressed big time. They're becoming the meta because the high aim assist, resulting in 12 year olds thinking they're sacred Crucible gods sent down from DeeJ to record game clips for FaZe of double kills consisting of body shots. More importantly, you'll dump a clip into a sniper's head thinking it's making their scope flinch while they're ADS, but then they magically pop off a clean, clear, magnetized headshot as if they weren't getting shot at by a million bullets in those matter of seconds. Then you go to inspect their sniper only to see they do not have the Unflinching perk, and you rage about, "HOW THE BLOOTY HAIL MON?! HOW DID HE GET THAT HEADSHOT OFF SO PERFECTLY WHILE I WAS POPPING HIS PIMPLES WIF ME BULLETS MON?!" ...but seriously, we must address this problem. I still don't see people using fusion rifles. But when I'm face to face against a fusion rifle, I just kind of stop where I'm at and ask myself, is that a fuccking fusi- fucck, he killed me. Who knows if they actually pulled through with that buff. Sidearms? What the hell is a sidearm? Oh, heavy machine guns! Let's just give everybody 2 clips in Crucible so the noobs can go positive for once in their miserable online multiplayer gaming life! How else are you going to ruin your enemy's 25 kill streak? With primary gun skill? Oh no, just use these 75 machine gun bullets and kill him 10 times in a row! Oh yeah!!!!! Oh, but by all means, just totally ignore people with supers while you have a corn field cropper in your hands because people without supers are much more important! But oh boy, ohhhhh boy those rockets man... boy, I tell ya! Let's just give everybody 2 less rockets, but make sure we still give machine guns the same amount of ammo in Crucible! Oh yeah!!! Machine guns take hella skill duUuUude! Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! [spoiler]kappa[/spoiler]

Fist of havoc that blinds if it doesn't kill, followed by 10 minutes of floating around electrocuting anything with in 2 miles. Sounds balanced...

Stormcaller are fine. Easy to kill with a team. So were sunbreakers but they had health regen. Sunbreakers would be fine without cauterize and needed to be able to kill with a sniper headshot. Everything else was overkill

There is literally no way to nerf golden gun more and still call it a super. It's a mobile super that got its duration shortened, has no AoE potential (unless you screw yourself on accuracy), gives no damage resistance, and probably only yields 1-3 kills per activation (you know, unless someone shoots you with any sniper, any shotgun, or twice with anything but a sidearm- then you just die).

Haven't ran into a stormcaller yet that I couldn't bubble through and shotgun down.

Why do people assume only hunters call for a nerf... Really? According to you guys because I thought the character to choose in the middle of the screen was cool, I'm now automatically a crybaby.

Just reduce the time and the range. That is all.

Only 2 things i feel should be nerfed/reworked is the insane melee range (not fair at all) and landfall (dont think it should kill instantly but it should almost kill them and still blind them)

Lol sunsinger > stormcaller any day of the week.

I'm not even bothered by storm caller you still have to get close to make it effective. The thing that makes me mad about it is how long it lasts I've been killed by one respawned half the map away then been killed by him again.

You can damage people and kill them in under a second for 20+ seconds from a range where auto rifles start to fall off...

Stormcaller ain't balanced best melee and best super

Agreed

Landfall also blinds if it didn't blind then that would be fair.

It's not that stormcaller is Op-- It's that it's the only super that actually works well. Blade dancer doesn't have depth perception, gg has no armor and its accuracy was nerfed as well as symbiote being nerfed. Sunbreaker is into the ground right now, the other two subclasses are only decent overall, nightstalkers are good but hard to use.