Without either you won't be playing Destiny... Are you implying otherwise? I see nothing untrue with the original comment by... mj. He's making some assumptions, but I don't believe that anyone thinks that when support for the game drops that we will still have these things. You could claim an error in his logic that due to the game evolving what we have in year one, or day one, will be gone anyway. So in two years or ten it's folly to expect to see the game as it was on day one. Is that what your vague statement is poking at?