i've seen hammers blow up and not kill people when they are direct hits, blade dancer not connect, shoulder charge blow myself up, shoulder charge not kill someone. most all of these problems are related to the insane latency numbers matches have been operating at i play like a couple matches a week and have seen or experienced all the above. i could only imagine how people who play a few hours a day of pvp feel., i simply don't know why anyone does it, it can't be fun