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1/13/2016 4:07:28 PM
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In Destiny you're right, around 1.0 isn't bad due to the nature of the game. But in other shooters that's not the case.
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Yeah but he didn't say good, he said above average. Take any shooter anywhere, the average KD is .8-.9. If you can fall of a map or blow yourself up with a rocket, it will be lower than 1. That's just math. It doesn't mean your a pvp God or anything. Just that you are in the top 49.9%.
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Still doesn't apply to other games like it does on Destiny. Suicides happen in other games but the K/Ds are far more lopsided overall. In CoD you won't be viewed as a good player with a K/D between 1.0 & 1.3, that's just average. Above average in CoD is 1.5+ and a good player will have at least 2.0. That's because of killstreak rewards and other factors of course. But the standards are different for other games.
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[quote]Still doesn't apply to other games like it does on Destiny. Suicides happen in other games but the K/Ds are far more lopsided overall. In CoD you won't be viewed as a good player with a K/D between 1.0 & 1.3, that's just average. Above average in CoD is 1.5+ and a good player will have at least 2.0. That's because of killstreak rewards and other factors of course. But the standards are different for other games.[/quote] Being 'viewed as good' and being statistically good are 2 very different things. Also please note I'm not saying this means all 1.0 players and above are great, just that if you've reached 1.0 you are slightly above the global average
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And I agreed that's acceptable for Destiny, but not all games.
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Being above average should be acceptable in any game, but I see your point. There's people in destiny asking for 1.5kd or higher, I've seen cod players search for 2.5 + In my opinion 1-1.5 is good, 1.5-2 is very good 2+ is great. But this applies only to kd, if it's an objective game mode than kd is less important
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Doesn't matter. Math is math man. I do t care if you're viewed as a shitty player or not. Average or above average does not mean "good", it means "greater than the sum divided by the participants". Kill streak rewards don't reward you with extra kills.
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Edited by iMoto Bro: 1/13/2016 5:35:08 PMMath doesn't set the standards for who's considered good or bad at the game. People are going to judge each other regardless of the math or standards set by the community so it doesn't really matter if you think you're average or not. Killstreak rewards have ALWAYS counted towards your K/D in CoD by the way. They no longer count towards earning your next reward, but they definitely affect K/D.
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I know. That's what I've been saying. The math says 1.0 is an above average KD. That doesn't mean you are considered a good player. That's what I've said in every one of these posts. Numbers are numbers. Nebulous concepts like "what is considered good", have nothing to do with KD averages.
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Again, doesn't matter what "the math says" in most games, because the standards are different for each game. You can't kill yourself in every shooter, so using suicides as an excuse for going negative or breaking even doesn't always work. If you applied the same logic to a racing game it wouldn't work either. If you won 50% of your races and lost 50%, you wouldn't be considered a good player or even average. If you have a 50% batting average in Baseball, you're garbage. If you hit only 50% of you're free throws in basketball, you're garbage. My original point is that, 1.0 is average in Destiny, but that's not acceptable in most other games.
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Oh my god you're thick. In any shooter ever, if you can't kill yourself, the average KD is 1. Period. Doesn't matter what you think. That is the average and it has nothing to do with anything else. Let's take baseball. If you win 50% of your games, your team did fine, but not you aren't going to the playoffs. If you bat .500, you are a god among men. If you pitch and have a 50/50 win/loss stat, your average. Averages have nothing to do with being good. They are the average. Every single baseball player has a "below average" "hit to out ratio". It's just the game. But that doesn't mean all of them are below average players. In shooters, and even racing games, if you win the same amount as you lose, or kill the same as you die, you are statistically average. I don't care if you think cod players with a 1.3 KD are junk. Your opinion doesn't change the fact that they are above the average. If you aren't in school, you should go back. If you are, you should study more. That's the beauty of math. Facts are facts regardless of what your opinion of them is.
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Edited by iMoto Bro: 1/13/2016 5:44:11 PMCool rant bro. You're the one intentionally being dense here. I don't care what your opinion on math is kiddo, nobody does. And I don't even play CoD anymore, so nice rob ranting about that for no reason. Your "1.0 is average" logic simply doesn't fly outside of Destiny. But keep telling yourself you're good for breaking even, it seems like you need the confidence boost. Also [b]facts[/b] are things which are proven with science (not false math). There is no science that can prove one's skill in a videogame. Any further argument you attempt to make will be invalid. Also you couldn't be more wrong about racing games. 50% win/loss is bad, especially if you boil it down to first place as a win and anything else as a loss.
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Lol, okay. Let's break this down so you'll get it. In a racing game, let's say there are six cars, like SRL. The average place finish is mathematically 3.5, so sometimes third sometimes fourth. Winning and losing has nothing to do with it. If you consistently come in 3, you are above average since you have never dropped below. Someone has to come in 4,5, and 6 though. So the average never changes. But I would not call you a good racer for always placing third. In any shooter ever, there are only two stats in a KD ratio. Kills and deaths. CoD, BF, CS, UT, anything. For all players the average is 1.0 (not counting suicides). This does not make you good, it makes you average. What aren't you getting? If someone has a 1.5 here, it is the same statistically as a 1.5 in any other shooter. Maybe that number represents a different skill level based on other game mechanics, but it is the same mathematically. You think math is not fact? Yeah you're 17 all right. Gotta be. That's the demographic that uses "kiddo" when they can't admit they were wrong. Next you'll tell me how bad your odds of winning the lottery are now that so many people have tickets. Stay in school.
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Edited by iMoto Bro: 1/13/2016 7:13:15 PMAnother cool story, but it needs a dragon. Everything is better with dragons. [spoiler]As stated before no further attempts at trying to "prove" a "fact" with "math" will be acknowledged. I'm sure there's a chess club at a university near you that would be super impressed with your basic math skills. You should go be with your fellow brethren. [/spoiler] Also you obviously don't know how the lottery works.
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Shhh shh there buddy. You'll feel better after a nap. Go ahead and have a little mute before bed. Maybe in the morning you'll figure out the difference between fact and opinion. Until then, dream of those dragons.
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Edited by iMoto Bro: 1/13/2016 9:53:13 PMSure take the easy way out when you know you're wrong. Thanks for all your salty tears kid. Way to go, you wasted half a day arguing with yourself over literally nothing. My original post was [b]one sentence[/b] long and you ranted this much over it? Congratz, you've won idiot of the day. I know you'll come back for more after claiming to mute me, so when you do, please explain to me how you plan to win the lottery. Good luck, and until then keep dreaming of winning the lotto kid, you're gonna need it.
