I'm honestly not sure where to start with your statement, but I'll do my best. I think the thing that bothers me the most is the statement in the middle - "men or should I say boys have and always will be the same thats a given." It's not a given, not even a little bit. Saying so is somehow assuming men and boys aren't capable of not harassing women, not treating them poorly, not creating environments which are hostile to women in both overt and subtle ways. Frankly, I think that is pretty insulting to anyone who identifies as male, and it perpetuates the idea that women are somehow responsible for the poor behavior directed toward them - that our existence as women is the reason men act this way, and it's our problem to deal with because men aren't capable of handling themselves. In regards to your remark about people being so easily offended. Language matters. What we say matters. It teaches others what we believe; it teaches our children what to believe and how to act on that belief; it teaches other people what we think of them. What we say has a real impact on others, irrespective of our intent. Instead of focusing on people being easily offended, perhaps consider that maybe people have been offended, or even threatened, by similar behavior for a very long time, but it is only now marginally more safe to express those feelings. Just because it's new to you, doesn't mean it's actually new to the human experience. I also think your example of restrooms is a poor one. Public facilities should be available to everyone, regardless of any aspect of their identity. However, we still retain the right to free association in our private lives, and a group/clan is a private entity. If we were out on the forums perpetuating hate against anyone in any form, I might understand your concern. But we aren't, and I don't understand it, except in the way that I have come to understand anyone who picks this kind of argument with us - someone who is more concerned with policing how women go about organizing themselves and their lives than with confronting the very real problems that still exist in our society. It seems to be easier to say we aren't acting the way you want us to, we're not organizing, gaming, dressing, talking, existing in the way you want us to than to take responsibility for your part in perpetuating a system that oppresses anyone who is not part of the dominant group. Maybe that's out of fear that you'll somehow lose your unearned privilege, maybe that's out of ignorance of how these systems form and are perpetuated, I really don't know. What I do know is that I'm over it. If joining and supporting an all-female group is "enabling" more women to be comfortable with gaming, to stand up for themselves because they have the support to do so, to have a community of people who can say they've been there and here's how they dealt with it, then I'll happily enable away. If that bothers you, that's something you need to examine for yourself. I have other things to do.