It's nothing more than a panic button. A goddamn panic button.
It requires literally ZERO skill to kill people with it. You simply press a button and everyone around you dies in less than a second. Once the animation has been initiated, the only way to stop it is if you have a super, three rocket launchers, or a dozen shotguns already aimed at the guy. No other super activates that fast, so unless you have one already active, and are aiming at them, you've got pretty much no freaking chance of stopping it.
What the hell are you supposed to do? Stay away from all titans at all times just in case one might have it ready? Killing a Titan before he has the chance to press the button doesn't work, as he'll simply have it ready the next time he respawns. It's simply not feasible to kill a Titan after the button's been pressed unless he's already severely wounded.
Why the hell is it that whenever this is brought up on the forums, everyone jumps to its defense?
The striker subclass is supposed to be unstoppable, I get it. What I don't like is how no other class has a super that's that goddamn effective. No other class has a super that, once activated, guarantees that everyone around you will die unless they either happen to have a super capable of killing you already active, or they have a fist of havoc that they can also use to survive the explosion.
I know that these forums has a severe allergic reaction to the word "nerf", but I really think that Fist of Panic deserves it. At least make it so that in PVP it requires a second to charge before detonating, making their window of vulnerability slightly larger.
"Press a button to instantly kill everyone around you." is OP in the crucible even amongst supers. It simply can't be countered by anything because once it's activated, you've got less than a second to react, which is not enough time to do anything capable of stopping it.
Either give us a more time to counter it, or give the other classes a super each that is equally unstoppable.
[b]To everyone who will inevitably side with the super and insult me in the comments below, I genuinely want to know how you can justify this. Every super has a bane, a weakness, except this one. GG has no armor and can easily be shut down, WoD can be countered by simply staying away from the bubble or blowing it up with another super, Stormcaller is easily noticable and thus gives players a chance to react and flee from it. Fist of Havoc has no weakness. If you're in range when it's activated, you will die.. If you disagree, I challenge you to explain a reliable method of not dying when you're in range of an incoming panic fist.[/b]
Seriously, the only ways a FoH could actually NOT kill people is if they somehow belly flopped off the map, chose to waste it when there were no enemies around, or if they chose to belly flop at someone who already had GG aimed at them ready to fire. Also if someone reacted by activating their own belly flop so the armor would protect them, but that's assuming they're a titan and also have a ready-to-activate FoH.
All of the above can be avoided with even the slightest bit of competence and should not be considered "weaknesses" of the super.
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Nova bomb says hello
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One it isn't that quick and two you have to anticipate it blink (which only titans can't get) shadestep and twilight garrison all let you dodge them and the reason they are fair is because it is damn near impossible to get a triple kill with it. And doubles require skill. GG arc blade raidance stormtrance and shadowshot are all easy to get multikills with
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I understand it is a little bit fast but It has many setbacks once you go you don't stop until you die or hits something it can't roam if one guy is alive it's likely you die because of the animation and honestly they're easy to bait and be jumped out of
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Dodge, its surprisingly easy to evade and the titan is vulnerable after landing it.
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Jump.
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It figures a no skill hunter is bitching about a titan. Go -blam!- yourself with a sharp object
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Sees characters 307 hunter .and level 5 warlock got -blam!- your mom stupid ass hunter.
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The fact that u don't have a Titan makes this entirely pointless. Just try it out idiot
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*checks medal score* lol
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No. Just no. There's a reason it's called super.
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You're joking right? You want to nerf the super where the other guy has to run at you while you get to shoot at them before they are close enough to even activate it. Just no.
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Just pray you somehow kill them before they land.
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Someone's butthurt and btw that's what novabomb is
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FoH is perfectly balanced
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Edited by B4B PopTart: 1/23/2016 1:59:25 PMSolution: take 3 steps backwards. Profit??? How in the HELL are you saying FoH is OP? Kinda wanna rant here but I won't.
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Landfall says what?
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I'm I a hunter main and OP post is whine fest.
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Pretty tough to counter a nova bomb or shadowshot after they are activated, too. Maybe that's why they are called "supers"?
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I have died many times in animation and unless your bad it's really obvious when a Titan is going to do it. I mean why would they ever just sprint at 3 enemy players if they weren't going to super?
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I once killed a Titan mid-fist of havoc with an Efrideet's Spear headshot. But it only did 204 damage so 1000 yard stare probably can't do enough damage to kill sadly.
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And you don't even have a Titan so how could you possibly know if it's good or bad?!
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Don't let them close and stop crying
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Why u cryin? It doesn't take any skill to sit in a chair with a controller in ya hand. You shouldn't be able to counter it .... It's a super...
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FoH is strong, but the player needs to be close to enemies to use it. I have died countless before being able to activate it because enemy players killed me before i got close enough to them. Using it in the open is much harder than indoors, unless you are good at aiming it using Death from Above. It's not all pros, like every other super, it has cons. Stormcallers landfall is more of a panic button than FoH.
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The FoH has one big flaw. It is a panic super. You may think I'm backing your point, but I'm not. Mod of the time a FoH will only kill one person, two at most. Yes it can sometimes kill more, but because of its nature as a panic super it is used much more to kill a single person who has caught said Titan unawares. Blade dancer and storm caller are excellent supers. Yes, they can be countered, but used right they can easily kill a moderately spread out team of 3-6 enimasos. To kill any more than 2 people with FoH you have to be very lucky to find them all in a spot, with a ready to use super, without them shooting you before you sprint towards them, and before they then spread out. Just because it's very difficult to counter doesn't mean it's a typically strong super.
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Backstab.