It's nothing more than a panic button. A goddamn panic button.
It requires literally ZERO skill to kill people with it. You simply press a button and everyone around you dies in less than a second. Once the animation has been initiated, the only way to stop it is if you have a super, three rocket launchers, or a dozen shotguns already aimed at the guy. No other super activates that fast, so unless you have one already active, and are aiming at them, you've got pretty much no freaking chance of stopping it.
What the hell are you supposed to do? Stay away from all titans at all times just in case one might have it ready? Killing a Titan before he has the chance to press the button doesn't work, as he'll simply have it ready the next time he respawns. It's simply not feasible to kill a Titan after the button's been pressed unless he's already severely wounded.
Why the hell is it that whenever this is brought up on the forums, everyone jumps to its defense?
The striker subclass is supposed to be unstoppable, I get it. What I don't like is how no other class has a super that's that goddamn effective. No other class has a super that, once activated, guarantees that everyone around you will die unless they either happen to have a super capable of killing you already active, or they have a fist of havoc that they can also use to survive the explosion.
I know that these forums has a severe allergic reaction to the word "nerf", but I really think that Fist of Panic deserves it. At least make it so that in PVP it requires a second to charge before detonating, making their window of vulnerability slightly larger.
"Press a button to instantly kill everyone around you." is OP in the crucible even amongst supers. It simply can't be countered by anything because once it's activated, you've got less than a second to react, which is not enough time to do anything capable of stopping it.
Either give us a more time to counter it, or give the other classes a super each that is equally unstoppable.
[b]To everyone who will inevitably side with the super and insult me in the comments below, I genuinely want to know how you can justify this. Every super has a bane, a weakness, except this one. GG has no armor and can easily be shut down, WoD can be countered by simply staying away from the bubble or blowing it up with another super, Stormcaller is easily noticable and thus gives players a chance to react and flee from it. Fist of Havoc has no weakness. If you're in range when it's activated, you will die.. If you disagree, I challenge you to explain a reliable method of not dying when you're in range of an incoming panic fist.[/b]
Seriously, the only ways a FoH could actually NOT kill people is if they somehow belly flopped off the map, chose to waste it when there were no enemies around, or if they chose to belly flop at someone who already had GG aimed at them ready to fire. Also if someone reacted by activating their own belly flop so the armor would protect them, but that's assuming they're a titan and also have a ready-to-activate FoH.
All of the above can be avoided with even the slightest bit of competence and should not be considered "weaknesses" of the super.
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Edited by Helios: 1/23/2016 12:14:00 AMYou must either be ridiculously new or completely terrible at this game to find Fist of Havoc a threat. Until the last update it was absurdly easy to kill a Titan mid leap, I know, it happened to me a lot. That's why there was such a surge away from the subclass when TTK launched. Hunters and warlocks have three relatively offensive supers while Titans have two. Aside from the initial juggernauts they were when Sunbreaker was made available being a Striker Titan was akin to being a slower slightly heavier hunter at times. Yes, it can be a panic button but if you've played as a Striker you know how awesome it can be in either PVP or PVE. Literally destroying five out of six players on an opposing team in control is a great feeling and delivers on the thing all classes are meant to deliver on. A sense of power. So instead of railing against a thing because it exists why don't you get better at the game, play as the thing you "hate" and gain some insight, or just quit playing altogether. Because reading through this makes you look like an incapable idiot.