This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b]
Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making.
Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place.
If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP
If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP
Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare)
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[i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u]
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Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist.
[u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why.
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If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard!
(Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes)
[b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b]
[b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b]
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EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b]
For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror."
Then this is what I personally have to say to you
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Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote]
This is gold
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The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote]
By IronChalice
For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0
[u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage
Best comment IMO
[quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking.
Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on.
Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated.
In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time.
I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote]
[u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u]
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EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i]
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EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i]
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HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking!
https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278
Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time.
We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date.
People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote]
[u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u]
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1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good.
As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i]
[b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]
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Edited by An Engram Full Of Bees: 1/24/2016 8:14:08 AMIt's not official if I just saw 7 other posts saying the same thing ;) Happy to give a bump though!
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The community asks for it and once they get it they don't want it anymore. Well shit.
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Edited by alvin2503: 1/24/2016 9:31:06 AMDeej already stated that petition will not do anything to the game. They only read the data, so you will have to stop playing pvp for them to listen
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I'm signing tired of the lag or as bungie calls it latency from other country's they need dedicated severs to fix its issues but tell its fix connection based is the only way I played since the second week I love the game I love them to fix this issue but it won't happen
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Signed
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Signed but they will not listen unfortunaly.
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Edited by Percivle: 1/24/2016 9:23:12 AMIt'd be cool to have the option to choose between the two.
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Bump. It was a good idea, just isnt working.
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Signed
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Bump & signed.
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pvp is just random and we play it for fun. we all know there is only a fukkin stupid server so your "skills" or "competitive" or k/d ratio means nothing unless you play only against ppl at the same distance to the servers as you. bungie threw away the possibility to make the best freaking best game ever not building up regional servers.... just like any other decent multiplayer game has.... can u image how better crucible would be with dedicated regional servers... im so tired to see my bullets eaten by the lag my shots not making damage and that fukkin "immune" tag appearing over the head when your bullet hit the target..... (of course i have a optic fiber so the best connection available) hope destiny 2 will fix it cuz really destiny is the best
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Signed. I live in brazil and i wanna play with people from brazil no fuking polska or russia on the other side of the fuking planet where im descending to play and they firing me when im still at the ship. Fuk
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Signed
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Sighed. Bring back connection based matchmaking
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Signed. Haven't played in a while because of the lag.
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I do not care how they do matchmaking, as long as the connection stays good! Played a bit yesterday, 60% of the matches were laggy. Suck the fun out of it.
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Signed. Although i do prefer versing people that are a challange to beat i wish i didnt have to put up with a bad connection and also have most of my friends not want to play with me because of it.
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Signed, laggy games are no fun. Also Bungie needs to fix their servers a bit.
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Free bumps for everyone!!!!!
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I completely stopped playing because of it I get it, lots of people are saying, oh, well you should be matched up with people in your skill level. No, the matches had a good mix of skill levels before, mostly avg, some shitty and the rare top 10% player. My W/L ratio has always been around 45-55% Wtf was the problem with that? I had close matches, down to the wire nail biters, total blow outs, and was stomped on all in more or less equal quantities, all in all-----fun and diverse The last 3 weeks have sucked, every match is like playing trials, every match is lagged out like crazy Every match is crazy competitive and cheap as fcuk. If i want to play that kind of match i play trials(or in any other game a ranked playlist) I don't play reg pvp to be at the top of my game a 100% of the time I'm not the greatest player, but i am in the top 10-20% bracket so Every Single Game Is a total shit show lag fest Why? Because I'm only matched with 10-20% of the player base!! Every game is with people 10,000mi away from me Fix your shit bungie or i wont be back ever
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Ok I'll sign this but only because sbmm makes the lag unbearable. If they could somehow address the latency and lag issues they have and keep the current mm system then I think most gamers wouldn't be so pissed.
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