Your the first person to actually analyze my post and give as reasonable response for discussion so I thank you for that. I'm going to have to disagree on the mida not being good at long range the mida is a good counter to snipers because of the mobility perk you can easily strafe in and out of cover making target acquisition difficult and peg the target with the 'secret' high caliber rounds that exist why? and I didn't say it in my post but one guardian running in front of you while your in a gunfight with mida isn't exactly relevant because it doesnt happen that often and for my post I was thinking 1 v 1 gunfights. If it's 2 v 1 the 2 should win anyway. the spam shots thing is if you're going toe to toe with another guardian a lot of the times my strat is to strafe in and out of cover to make them waste shots and with the mida the mag is too big to keep that up for long so theres no penatly for missing shots because you have to many where with tlw theres only 8 shots so you can strafe cover count the shots then attack mida has no such weakness. Also every weapon rewards hitting your shots especially to the head but they also penalize missing shots or prefiring corners because you usually have either a slow reload or a small mag with faster reload which is a weakness mida doesn't have. I agree with suros and monte beating in ideal range but most the time the mida user will stay in a longer sightline and pick you off before you get close enough or just run away with the extra mobility and get to a more advantageous spot anyway. Just saying if the guns going to have high caliber rounds make the player sacrifice the extra mobility don't just add it on there and not say anything. Is mida not a scout rifle? Hasn't bungie said in all its weapon balancing updates that scouts are ideal for long range? Mida's only flaw can be the user because I've used it and that thing wrecks. Can you honestly say that in midas range another primary will out gun it and you won't be forced to try and out mida the other player? Thanks for your well thought out reply I look forward to your response