You contradicted your title in the first sentence: if they completely abandoned it, then they wouldn't have fixed the couple raid glitches right? But i know, that's not what you meant lol. Anyway, yall keep saying they've given up on pve, when things have shown they haven't, they just haven't released a major dlc, which they said they wouldn't do. You know why? Cause that's an unsustainable model and they realized that. To create a full game every 2-3 years, 2 major dlcs every year in the years between those full games, and events here and there every couple months is bold as hell, but it's unsustainable. That's why other mmos don't do it. As for my they keep doing shit for pvp: it's cause that's easier to create things for and it keeps interest in your game until you have new content to drop for the pve side. Yall just gotta be patience, shit is coming.

Here's what's going to happen. These forums are littered with make old content relevant again, bump up the old raids to new light levels, on and on and on.... But you know what? That is more than likely what's going to happen. What will happen? These forums are going to blow up like a nuke bomb with disgust because of this. I personally don't want year 1 stuff brought up to year 2 levels. If you want your challenge back, go equip your old gear and give it a go. I want NEW STUFF. I am well aware that NEW stuff takes a long time to create. I'm ok with that! But the real issue at hand, and it's been this way with Bungie for awhile now, is the lack of communication. I don't care what anyone says, if you play PvP there was no communication until it was figured out they switched to SBMM. PvP was so unbalanced in year 1 they barely addressed the issue. Thorn, Vex, Suros anyone? PvE is now in that boat. Y1 we knew stuff was coming, official or unofficial. You just knew it was coming. Didn't matter when, but you knew it was on it's way. Today? Here buy these emotes, here buy these SRL Record books, Buy this buy that....This is the new method of a seasons pass in Y2. This game is dying, and not by any other franchise, but by the developers themselves. It's sad to see the state of this game today. These forums have grown so toxic, who recalls the days here where every post was something helpful, mysteries of the Vault, lore posts etc. Those were some good times here. Now it's nerf nerf nerf, OP OP OP, I WANT I WANT I WANT, BRING BACK BRING BACK BRING BACK. I guess what I'm saying here is, prepare to be disappointed with whatever comes next. Lighting in the bottle has escaped this franchise and I doubt it will ever be recaptured.

[b]The community did this by showing they'll throw money at emotes and still logging in even though you're not happy[/b] You have yourselves to blame

I know it feels super PvP-centric right now. But the truth is that there are hundreds of people probably killing themselves working hard on future PvE stuff behind the scenes. It sucks to wait...but it'll come.

There is a larger update coming after February. -blam!-ing chill and just wait to get the info, we have been told a larger update than anything since ttk is coming.

And they wonder why the game is dying.........fooools. YOU BLEW IT!!!!!

The reality is, Bungie is in over their heads... If Activision is smart, they will hand the title over to a different developer that knows how to do something other than build a PVP based shooter. I think that Bungie tried, but then decided it was too hard, and one day in a meeting said "-blam!- it... This is hard... Let's just focus on PVP"...

How are new skill challenge quests for dedicated gear every month not a thing? They can't take that much effort and you can have it tied to existing content (which YES is boring, but skill challenges would at least offer a little Diversity to playstyle potentially). If their engine is that lousy they can't even program something that minimal, that engine is truly a fail. Pretty much everyone I used to play with, (had over 150 people last year between TDB and HoW and maybe 10 left now) nearly ALL of them enjoyed the PVE and the that's why we played. We enjoy co-op (which is why most are moving to the Division next month) and Doom in May. The PVP in this game just isn't very good and making it a PVP focused game simply throws it into an already overcrowded market and really doesn't add enough uniqueness or a solid enough experience to bother sticking around when lots of other PVP games are WAY more smooth, fluent and balanced. Also, for a grind for loot game, there is WAY TOO LITTLE gear. That's one of the many reasons they have to rely on RNG so heavily.

The same strikes... Is bs We had more strikes for this stupid asss dlc.

My PvE playtime has decreased so much that I'm running out of Planet Materials. Lol

they could spark the PvE crowd super cheap: lat engrams drop up to 320 according to your light, in playlists that can be grind endless.. and Whopee, the PvE crowd is back on the console.. maybe the vanguard heroic strikes or even patrol , have those useless blues and purples drop at rates over 310

Kings fall released 4 months and 18 days ago. No new pve content has been added since. Kings fall hard mode released 3 months and 6 days ago. You can't really class that as 'new content' but it's something. Still. That's 98 days ago. 14 weeks. You also can't class challenge mode as new content added as it just requires you do do existing content in a different method. Or in the warpriests case, do it it the exact same way... That's longer than the content gap between vanilla and Crotas end. Longer than Crotas end and house of wolves. Also longer than the HOW expansion and TTK. Not only do we not have any new content, but we also have NO IDEA what is coming. The time after Crotas end was a bleak time for the destiny community.... But we were all aware of house of wolves being just around the corner so had something to look forward to in destiny. Now we are all looking forward to the division.

Destiny is changing. Most Year 1 content has been rendered obsolete. The focus for Year 2 has been on PVP. The end-game for PVE has remained basically broken with regards to receiving good drops consistently. The exception to this is the weekly challenge. This is Destiny. We either accept the changes or move onto another PVE based game. I have over 2000 hours into this game so have received my money's worth. I'm not happy where the game is now at but sadly there's nothing I can do to change the direction that Buingie's now headed. I will stick it out a bit longer because the camaraderie of playing with clan mates is truly the FUN part of this game for me right now. It is what it is. Destiny, the game that had so much potential sadly fell short of greatness.