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Edited by GHOSTFACE:
2/10/2016 2:03:24 PM
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Return to Pre-Patch 1.1.1
I get what Bungie is trying to do by eliminating special ammo from the start of every 3v3 match in PvP, but this update is pointless and it shows the community that they still can't get their game right. I understand their trying to eliminate getting sniped and shotguned at the start of the match but what they did was opened up doors to TLW and Mida even further. They are trying to promote primary weapon engagement which is good but everyone will go for TLW in close to mid range and MIDA in mid to long range. All they had to do was buff other primaries and fusion rifles. Simple.
On the other hand I propose Bungie undo every nerf on weapons and return to Patch 1.1.1. Yes Suros and fusion rifles were reigning but all they had to do back then was buff pulse rifles, buff handcannon accuracy and buff scout rifles how they are now. I guarantee everything would eventually sort themselves out, and also back then we had a variety of play styles rather than your average Mida/TLW/1000 yard stare roll out.
If Bungie goes back to this then primaries will be dominating rather than special weapons. Auto rifles, pulse rifles and handcannons will be competing, while high range shotguns and fusions will be competing.
Like If you agree!
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1 ReplyWe need posts like these to become popular so that Bungie notices them!
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I think your idea is great! Bungie would still have to tweak the game to bring balance in place, but Destiny has descended into a continuous cycle of nerfs. Instead of nerfing, buff! (still nerf Thorn's DOT though) I will now explain some stuffs ( ; Shotguns became a source of frustration in the crucible because they have the ability to one shot. Shotguns are instant kills, whereas other weapons require multiple bullets to hit, have a charge time, or require skill and precision. Destiny has a slow time to kill. Insta-kill weapons do not belong in the game. Oke7 I was going to write a very large rant-like comment about what changes should be made, etc., but I'll stop here...
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1 ReplyThe reason people hate shotguns and snipers, and mida is major now is because these are what remains of the good guns in pvp I played at release (not on my account 😭) and I could go toe to toe with shotguns with my auto rifle and my fusion rifle. Another think a exotic should be able to outgunned most uncommons and rares I miss taking my surrose up against a uncommon scout rifle and winning because the gun was just better ( it was still possible to take out people using exotics with uncommons and rares but it took some skill)
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Return weapons to pre 1.1.1.
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They acknowledged they would never go back into previous updates through a community post. But I sure do miss 1.1.1 <3 Never forget
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When everyone was right snipers acted like snipers,AR's like AR etc. the point is everything acted the way it was supposed to
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1 ReplyThe best thing Bungie could do is stop listening to cry babies.
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Patch 1.1.1 was shit. Return to launch build.
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1 ReplyYou realize scouts have been pretty much untouched. They're only so "good" now because everything else was nerfed
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8 RepliesIf you mean PRE-patch 1.1.1....then yes. The problem with the current meta...and every one of them from 1.1. onwards....is that Bungie is trying to get a weapon system that is NOTHING like the one in Halo, to play LIKE Halo. So they are fumbling around, and slowly STUMBLING into the only way you can do that: Which is to basically restrict special weapon ammo and Heavy weapon ammo to the point that you basically remove them from the game. Because there is NO WAY to balance them against primary weapons otherwise. They are doing this to cater to a very small....but very LOUD minority of PvP players who want to reacreate the competitive Halo scene in Destiny. But don't seem to "get" that in doing so you will DESTROY the RPG elements of the game, and the quality of the PVE play experience. Which you didn't have to worry about with Halo. The problem is that the long primary weapon TTK that Bungie is determined to keep, creates a balance problem with special weapons. With a long TTK, anyone armed with a shotgun can simply RUN at anyone with a primary weapon----shrugging off their fire----until they get into shotgun range. With a long TTK, people armed with snipers can simply shrug off ranged primary weapon fire, while they either line up their head shot, or spam a body shot then move in for the kill. But this is how that loud minority of players want to play....and its a play style that many other players don't like, and BREAKS a lot of the weapons for PVE use. People remember the vanilla meta fondly, for a simple reason. IT WAS THE MOST BALANCED, HEALTHIEST META THAT THE GAME EVER HAD. Yes, ARs and shotguns dominated. ....but that's because ALL THE MAPS favored CQC. But AR users could stand their ground against shotgun rushers....and snipers were relegated to the edges of maps and locking down chokepoints. The only thing that the vanilla meta need to produce a very balanced system was: 1. Range drop offs in damage for each primary weapon class. 2. A base damage buff, and stability buff to PRs (which is what eventually happened to them) so that they could set themselves up as the mid-range weapon choice. 3. Fusion rifles needed a range drop off in damage, to curb the abuse of weapons like Plan C. The system needed surgery....but with a scalpel. Not the chainsaw Bungie went after it with....and is now STILL trying to repair the damage done to both PVP and PvE as a result.
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Signed 👌👏💯
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I agree with this. Going back to the first patch and buffing the scouts pulses and handcannons to what they are now will give the crucible a bigger diversity in weapons. Cause as op said, all u see now is tlw, mida and 1k stare. It's stupid. Especially with the aim assist on these new snipers. Year one patches and etc was so much better than year 2. The game is pathetic right now. From pve to crucible. It's a joke. And don't say I'm a cry baby player cause I aint. I've played since day one and I'm finally dome with the stupid grind, it ain't fun anymore. If they went back to year one ways I'll come back
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Not just weapon, Just in nerf everyting people that cry should just go back to cod they are ruining this game that why I'm not buying this game on my xb1 it's just a waste of money now, you go into trial all you see is last word mida or doctrine, that it now because those weapon can only do damage good
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Bump! Return everything to us!
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Edited by Kone19ps: 2/7/2016 4:35:39 PMJust stop. The balance isn't perfect right now but all these return to some previous patch posts are dumb. It was unbalanced then too and gives no specific solutions
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1 ReplyThere should be two crucible modes. One for the real true gamers and one for the bitches.
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7 RepliesSuper bump. I haven't used an AR since 1.1.1, and that's all that I used pre patch BECAUSE I LIKE THEM! It's stupid that I can't play a game how I like and feel effective.
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Like !!!!!!!
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5 Replies1.1.1 IS WHAT MESSED EVERYTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry. I miss my fusion rifles... ;__;
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In a lot of matches I found it was regime and dot not Mida or last word and I actually liked it this way no camping sniper and a slug fest when the speaical ammo boxes do come in.
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4 RepliesI've heard of this era in many other threads, and I wish I could I have been in it because I love fusions, but when I got destiny fusions where destroyed.
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2 RepliesI was using mida back then so i wouldnt mind, but then ill be able to get my felwinters back so win win for me
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2 RepliesVerity of play styles? All you could use was a auto rifle because it had the range of a scout and the DPS to kill in almost a half second. The seros era still has me traumatized. This is the most balanced it has been yet. All I believe needs done is stability buff for pulse rifles and legendary handcannons need a reduction in the bloom effect (but the exotic ones can stay the same) and we should have a nice balance. The problem is people are out for blood from the scout rifles actually being a usable weapon in pvp they want it destroyed.
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2 RepliesYou actually want the day before 1.1.1 1.1.1 killed ARs
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