Guys stop having a smart argument we're on bungie forums and I expect you to act like it. Call someone a name for Christ's sake. Having said that, they need to add something large enough and permanent to keep people's attention. You're both arguing semantics to an extent. The pve content drought since the raids initial release has been sad as someone who likes this game. You may think hard mode or challenge mode is more content but it's really just more incentive to run the same thing. I wouldn't accept lvl 40 VOG or CE as new content unless changes were made where they don't feel the same. We killed oryx now let's move into something else.