[quote]These forums have grown so toxic, who recalls the days here where every post was something helpful, mysteries of the Vault, lore posts etc.[/quote] C'mon man. Forums have been a festering boil since day one. People have been sour over dashed expectations for this game and have been calling for nerfs since then, too. I too wish bungie would just let us know what the f is coming down the pike and when to expect it. However, they've meet purported to be transparent when it comes to what's in store. The good part about that is that one doesn't have to play Destiny if they don't want to. The division doesn't look that great from what I've seen but until I play it I'll reserve judgement. If it scratches the co-op itch many guardians have then bungie will suffer. Seems like blops3 already took away a whole lot of pvpers...