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2/8/2016 4:47:59 PM
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Things worse than death? So are you saying that addiction is worse than death? Well I've never seen anyone addicted to marijuana. Again old antiquated thinking. If someone uses marijuana and gets addicted to something else you guys love to call it a "gateway" drug. I love this one. If you have addictive personality you will have problems with anything you get your hands on. You people just make marijuana out to be the one that started it all for them
When in fact it could be anything from booze to Dr. Prescribed opiates.
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Just because YOU haven't seen anyone addicted to marijuana doesn't mean people haven't been addicted to it. True about other drugs. My point is ANY drug used illegally or without a Dr. prescription, is bad and something that should not be approved as appropriate behavior.
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That's the problem buddy. There's still dinosaurs out there just like you. Instead of trying to understand something you simply deem it illegal and "bad" when you don't even know the specifics yourself. I'm sure you do something illegal. Whether it's fantasy football which is gambling. I hope you get arrested for it and see exactly how many feel that have been arrested and their house raided for something that is completely trivial.
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I just mentioned that I have seen people in my own family hooked on weed and other drugs so I'm familiar with the system and how it works. My house has been invaded looking for said family member, where they also found more drugs and prescription pills received from a doctor who had NO license. Doing drugs is NOT something TRIVIAL, but you can choose not to believe that. It was my mistake to suggest people should get arrested in my original response and I'll own up to that.
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Edited by lYlasterBlazor1: 2/8/2016 5:41:03 PMThank you. I don't disagree with you. I believe there is genuine problems out there. My wife has had family members die from. Alcohol related accident and pancreatitis derived from alcohol. I don't think someone drinking in their house or smoking whatever in their house should be invaded and punished because it is their own person. If they are a dealer or someone who is gaining from others misery than I have no argument here. But to break down peoples door to their private lives is a crime that I believe is worse than anything a weed smoker is doing while playing a video game. Thank you for the debate.
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I agree completely and I'd hope the cops aren't breaking down doors just to nab weed smokers in their house. I've just seen to many kids in this neighborhood get initially hooked on weed, then it progresses to other drugs, and before you know they're in and out of jail, and in the case of 2 of my son's friends, dead.
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Edited by EMW ZEEK: 2/8/2016 5:03:48 PM[quote]Things worse than death? So are you saying that addiction is worse than death? Well I've never seen anyone addicted to marijuana. Again old antiquated thinking. If someone uses marijuana and gets addicted to something else you guys love to call it a "gateway" drug. I love this one. If you have addictive personality you will have problems with anything you get your hands on. You people just make marijuana out to be the one that started it all for them When in fact it could be anything from booze to Dr. Prescribed opiates.[/quote] You love speaking for others dont you? I have not said a single damn thing you are trying to argue against. Pot only does 2 negative things. 1. It changes your personality: you can tell within 5 minutes of talking to someone if they are a pothead. I will not go into the details but a lack of motivation to do anything is one common thing. There is also a difference between being a pothead and sometimes doing pot its all in the amount. 2. It kills brain cells: this reduces your IQ, attention span, and memory. Not by a whole lot but it does happen. These are the facts. Weigh the risks and rewards and decide for yourself if getting high for no reason is worth it. And If you want to get into a morality discussion "getting high or doing anything to feel pleasure for pleasures sake" is wrong by definition (thats fact but you can easily argue that morality doesnt matter) but lets not get into that here. Seriously though dont bother commenting on that I am not getting into that discussion. Anything that changes who you are is worse than death parkinsons disease is one example. Is pot that bad? No, I never said it was. You are just taking things other people say and assuming I will say them as well instead of actually reading my words. EDIT and pot is far more addictive than alcohol.
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[quote][quote]Things worse than death? So are you saying that addiction is worse than death? Well I've never seen anyone addicted to marijuana. Again old antiquated thinking. If someone uses marijuana and gets addicted to something else you guys love to call it a "gateway" drug. I love this one. If you have addictive personality you will have problems with anything you get your hands on. You people just make marijuana out to be the one that started it all for them When in fact it could be anything from booze to Dr. Prescribed opiates.[/quote] You love speaking for others dont you? I have not said a single damn thing you are trying to argue against. Pot only does 2 negative things. 1. It changes your personality: you can tell within 5 minutes of talking to someone if they are a pothead. I will not go into the details but a lack of motivation to do anything is one common thing. There is also a difference between being a pothead and sometimes doing pot its all in the amount. 2. It kills brain cells: this reduces your IQ, attention span, and memory. Not by a whole lot but it does happen. These are the facts. Weigh the risks and rewards and decide for yourself if getting high for no reason is worth it. And If you want to get into a morality discussion "getting high or doing anything to feel pleasure for pleasures sake" is wrong by definition (thats fact but you can easily argue that morality doesnt matter) but lets not get into that here. Seriously though dont bother commenting on that I am not getting into that discussion. Anything that changes who you are is worse than death parkinsons disease is one example. Is pot that bad? No, I never said it was. You are just taking things other people say and assuming I will say them as well instead of actually reading my words. EDIT and pot is far more addictive than alcohol.[/quote] That's all propaganda and you can read about this frankly anywhere. I'm not gonna sit here writing essays on things widely accepted by scientists worldwide[spoiler]and not politicians, imagine that! [/spoiler]. Of course it changes people? If I smoke I could be thrown into a dungeon and ruin my entire life, so to enjoy it smokers hide away. That's your faulty system and propaganda working, not the pot itself- for instance you could replace pot with anything there and achieve the same effects. Your argument is extremely outdated and ignorant.
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If pot is more addictive than alcohol than why is there so many more cases of people going to addiction based rehab for alcohol than there is for marijuana.
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Because alcoholics realize they have a problem. And because the effects are far more noticeable in those extreme cases. Alcohol addictions harms others more than pot does with violent outbursts and whatnot. Also you know. The whole legality thing? Pot is still illegal in most states so of course there would be less people getting addicted and then going to some place and admitting they were doing something illegal.
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[quote]Because alcoholics realize they have a problem. And because the effects are far more noticeable in those extreme cases. Alcohol addictions harms others more than pot does with violent outbursts and whatnot. Also you know. The whole legality thing? Pot is still illegal in most states so of course there would be less people getting addicted and then going to some place and admitting they were doing something illegal.[/quote] Anything can be habitual, such as smoking pot. Alcohol causes a physical addiction with withdraws that literally convince you to drink more to offset the depression from alcohol and the many other withdrawals such as hangovers. Pot stores itself in your fat cells so that when you are "coming down" you don't get any withdraws. It's literally by definition not physically addictive- you're talking about mental addictions, which could be anything as stated above.
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Yes pot is more of a mental issue. But its very hard to actually become an alcoholic (again thats a loose definition but I hope you understand the basic idea of what I am trying to say) It takes more alcohol to become addicted physically or mentally than it takes somebody to become addicted to pot whether physically or mentally. If you think otherwise feel free to say but I doubt you will convince me otherwise based on what I have read and heard in various places. However again alcohols effects are far more pronounced.
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I've smoked on and off for years. I have stopped for months at a time just because I had no urge to smoke. I travel for work a great deal. I'm not hiding weed with me. I have never even 1 time experienced signs of withdrawal or had any feeling like I could not live without.
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Then you are not a pothead and have done just enough to not have noticable issues. I dont think you are in the majority. But if you do it everyday it can cause issues. Its all in the amount. And some people have more willpower than others in regards to being able to quit.
