Yea you are right i guess i just need to tell a bad group to "git guud", after 3 hours in a raid there is no such thing as holding up a team, for all i care the people who keep messing up are holding up the team even more but instead of being a douche i take a break. At least im not one of those Aholes who quit after 2 attemps and then the team needs a replacement that takes forever to find. I did say dont smoke every 15 minutes but 1 smoke in a 3 hour raid? Pure evil apperently.