I haven't used thorn since before original buff... I remember using it in crucible when it first came out and it was bad... but still fun... I was going to use it yesterday... but I forgot it in the vault and was too lazy to use the app... I'm using it today though.. I also thought about icebreaker... my first exotic and I haven't used that since I got a ghorn at Crota.. I'll use that today too...