Neither of those guns are even that great in Crucible, though. Vision is decent, but there are far better year 2 scouts. Hell, there are better year 1 scouts. Vision is just slightly above average because of its stability and full auto. I wouldn't send a hate message to a VoC or Praedyth's user. That's just silly. However, Praedyth's used to be my go-to sniper prior to Trials of Osiris because it's basically a two-shot scout rifle. Haha.