I never said I'd encountered a "few" thorns. I said I encounter thorn and can COUNTER it unlike you obviously as you're saying its op, I am not. It might be a destiny forum but I'm saying I have a great life and so can't be up to "your" gaming standards, whatever they are and I couldn't care less. I enjoy the game, have fun, have a laugh, I don't take it serious when I die, I don't cry cuz a DOT bullet kills me. If it wasn't for the try yards like yourself this game would be so much more fun.