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Edited by KingJaymz94: 2/22/2016 10:20:36 AM
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Does Grimoire = Skill (95%+ of the time)?

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Please explain your answer [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/]Note : Also check out this reddit post, its another experiment done with Grimoire[/url] [b]NOTE : GHOST GIVE 760 NOTE : CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS GIVE 310[/b] If a person has more experience they tend to have more skill. [b] I am not saying all low Grimoire score players are bad, I am not saying all high Grimoire score players are good. But majority of the high Grimoire score players are good, and majority of the low Grimoire score players are not good. Think about it, there are a lot of people with low Grimoire scores, some this might be there first FPS, some might be extreme casuals, some just don't care. But people with high Grimoire score play the game a lot, they care about the game and spend a lot of time on it.[/b] Let me give you an example. I have been doing this for the past weeks and it has worked out for me. When I am looking for a raid group I would go to LFG and post something similar to this.- [quote]Need people for a fast raid run. Only requirement I have is must have a 4600+ Grimoire score[/quote] And I posted this morning - [quote]Looking for 5 players to do 2 fast runs. Only requirement is to have a 4600+ Grimoire and have enough time to run it more than once. 1 run should take 50mins.[/quote] The people who met the requirements had no problem messaging there Grimoire score, but others got so mad, they called me a "grimoire scub", "fu.cking retarded", and more stuff. Some people can't read at all and posted their light level. I didn't care about light level at all. It happened every week I've done this. It was really ridiculous. Do you want to know the time for all 3 of my runs? 54m 27s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4662858649 (Warlock) 1h 4m 53s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663058534 (Titan) 51m 39s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663230540 (Hunter) All of these runs went smoothly, becasue of that one requirement. If I would've had a light level requirement there is no telling what will happen, majority of the time it just goes bad. It is so easy to get carried to 315 and it is so easy just to get there without trying. Grimoire score shows more skill then a light level. So please don't message me on LFG if you don't meet my requirements and don't say "add me" if you don't meet them either. It's my fireteam, if you don't meet the requirements then you can't join so don't rage at me. Do you rage at someone asking for 315+ light level when you are 313? Do you rage at someone asking for Black Spindle, when you don't have the gun yet? Now let tell you what actually goes into a Grimoire score, and its not just dead ghost - Your grimoire score will increase if you : Get Crucible kills on Warlock, Hunter and Titan Get PvE kills on Warlock, Hunter, and Titan Played during the House of Wolfs days, when fallen attacked on patrol Killed certain bosses in PvE Killing an amount of certain enemies in PvE Get weapon kills with all types of weapons, not just a shotgun and hand cannon ;p Playing multiply PvP modes and winning at them, not just control and iron banner. Playing maps in Crucible for the first time. Playing events in the game, Finding ghost/frags exploring the game. All these will increase your Grimoire score, becasue it gives you a feel for the game, you are playing the game while doing this. Yes this might be like other FPS games but it still plays a bit different. Yes some people have an awesome FPS background and are already amazing in PvP. Someone who has been playing longer would know more. There are some prodigies in the world but not a lot, it takes time to get good. Remember in Elementary school when your teachers would always say practice makes perfect, it actually works a lot of the time but not all the time. [b]PvP Skill section of the tread -[/b] When I look for a trails group on LFG I always say have a 1.3 KD or higher because my KD is 1.3. I do not base PvP skills off grimoire, because lots of people have a FPS background and are good.

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  • lol a few weeks ago on iron banner I got an inv for iron banner to make a full team of 6 and they were all checking my grimoire which I think is like 4525 off the top of my head. I had the highest grimoire in that fireteam and while I don't consider myself to be the greatest player, I feel like I'm good and these people that were going on about KD and grimoire and blah blah who were all higher light than me were getting there asses kicked and I led my team almost every time. So I guess it just depends. grimoire can be a hit or miss on determining someone's skill.

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  • I wouldn't make the cut :/

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  • Legitimate question. Why should I even try to get past 316 light at the moment?

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    • No, it just means they went and farmed dead ghosts, and now, calcified fragments. Has nothing to do with actual player skill.

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      • For me yh m8

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        • Edited by Selenophobia: 2/16/2016 8:52:48 PM
          Not equal, for instance i have 2 friends that just got ps4s and have low grimoire but are highly skilled from their 360 days

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        • I have a 1.4 kd, and my grimoire is in the top 1%. I don't get paired with people below 4500 usually. Their kd's can be sh!t or like 1.9. I don't get people around my skill, but around my grimoire.

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        • Yes and no Yes because it shows how much you grind into depth of the game but no because it doesn't show player skill.

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        • How does crucible achievements translate into raid skill? So someone doesn't like hand cannons, they can't raid? Same for if they only like playing as 1 class. Grimoire for what you're trying to achieve, yes that would show experience. Grimoire overall doesn't.

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          • All the hate your getting because of Dead Ghosts and Calcified fragments lol people always say the same thing when a topic like this comes up and they always get abnormally offended.

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          • It really just shows how much time you have played

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          • I could not give a sh!t more about high grimoire and the grimoire-proud chumps.

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          • I know lots of people who only play PvP bur don't get into trials groups because of their bad KD. Well thanks those people because i just got someone guys with a 2.33 KD who have no one to play with. Yay! Trials here i come!

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          • Edited by chilean sea bass: 2/16/2016 8:12:26 PM
            Grimoire roughly correlates with playtime, I would imagine.

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            • I guess it depens of skill on what. For raids and strikes and missions yes for it represents more knowledge and therefore adaptability. For pvp you are better off checking the medals rather than kd.

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              • It's a bit weird, grimoire doesn't exactly equal skill. It's more like a measure of how much of the game you have explored and experienced.

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                • Too long didn't read the whole thing. But from what I read from the title I feel grimiore=experience not skill. However skill can come from experience with enough of it

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                • Grimoire is exploration not experience

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                • Anyone can YouTube

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                  • I never ghost hunted. I looked on ghost tracker and if I did I'd go up 700 grimoire. so I guess I should do that since you guys think grimoire is so important

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                    • Grimoire=experience

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                      • A good chunk of grimoire comes from just finding ghosts, grinding enemies, or playing specific game modes (whether you are good or bad at said game mode) even grimoire that comes from "skill based" things are a fluke becuase people get carried through that stuff all the time. Grimoire shows that you are a completionist, that's it. Little to no skill is involved in grimoire

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                        • Didn't read, by I get the idea. My opinion is this. While grimoire does not directly mean skill, high grimoire players are generally well informed and knowledgeable players who are a benefit to the team. They also have lots of playtime which doesn't make them pvp gods, but it does usually mean that they aren't terrible.

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                        • For Raiding.... Look at # of Raid completions on their GRIMOIRE card. I'd rather have a 20+ completion guy then a max GRIMOIRE/Light player on my fire team. 318 with 6 completions are scary. I can't speak on PvE because my kd sucks.

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                        • Having thumbs is all it takes to be good at PVE.

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                        • Grimoire is basically the same thing as prestige in Call of Duty. You don't have to be good to get high Grimoire, you just have to put time into it. But, higher Grimoire players typically are more reliable. You run into a high Grimoire player that doesn't seem to have eyeballs and thumbs once in a while, but most are good to have on your team. Medal score is almost the same as Grimoire. Typically the more you have, the better you are. I myself only have 1.5 Million, yesterday evening I absolutely took a violent dump on this team in Trials, I got some hate mail so I decided to look up the K/D's. They all had 3+ million medal score and each of them had between a 1.0 and 1.2. My cousin is an absolute monster at this game. He has like 4300 Grimoire score and only has 500k medal score but he would probably destroy your dreams when you look at his Trials K/D. AwesomeSniper82.

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