[quote]I have both. It does less damage than doctorine at any range other than three feet away.[/quote] Well that depends on what Range perks, if any, you have equipped. My Arminius-D has more Range than a Counterbalance Doctrine. Therefor, less damage drop off. Which makes your statement false. You're new to Autorifles though so I guess you get a pass. Enjoy the ride on PvP's latest bandwagon.