I've always been disappointed when they get community members (YouTubers) to talk to bungie and and ask questions. It's 100% scripted, and they don't ask real -blam!-ing questions.
"Why does any other gaming company release patches and updates in a fifth of the time it takes you guys, and there's more in a single patch than you guys do in a year?"
"Why no looking for group system in the actual game? You always talk about how this game is to be played with others, yet provided 0 eats for them to find each other. "Put down controller, open laptop and scour the Internet for people to play with" didn't sound dumb and lazy to you?"
"Why have you made endgame stuff useless and irrelevant?"
"Ever heard of Blizzard? They fixed Diablo 3 when it failed hard and disappointed the fans. They fired the creative lead guy in charge. Do you know how they fixed it? By listening to the fans, and doing what they wanted. In fact, I'm fairly certain they came to talk to you after vanilla was disappointing and told you 'you make a game for the people, for the player base, not for yourself.' And yet!"
"Based on the above question, why does Luke Smith ignore their advice and constantly tell player how they should play the game, and that's not how he intended them to play, so it's being removed or nerfed ect."
[b]addition[/b] "Luke smith also said he chose to not carry forward and y1 content, because he didn't want players to have to do. They were moving away from the grind, and bringing it forward would be too much for players. And yet TTK is more grind then y1 ever was. Classy Luke Smith."
"Why is it so hard for you guys to understand there's a difference between PVP and PVE, and that you should nerf, buff and balancing each one separately (as in, don't nerf to the ground the best reward from the raid (mythoclast) because it wrecks in PVP. it should be powerful in PVE, but you killed it because it was strong in PVP)"
"What's wrong with the crucible right now? Now I don't play it, but have seen many forum posts about it. Painting red bars green, super lag, being killed by invisible players, awful hit detection for melee (and everything else), lag lag lag."
"What is wrong with your servers? Any other game that features multiplayer has smart match making (don't match teams against solo players), and skill based match making isn't a bad idea in theory, it's just poorly executed."
"Let's talk smart loot table. This was a lie. Complete and utter lie. Just admit you 'forgot' to do it and implement it. If it is actually in the game, it's horrible, and needs to be reworked."
"No one. [b]NO ONE[/b] said 'hey, I have too many weapon parts, wish we could get less.' Stop forcing players to grind more so they don't realize your game is empty. If you actually provided meaningful content it wouldn't be an issue."
"I'm going to quote deej, not the exact word for word, but close: 'we never want to leave our players behind. When a new DLC comes out, we don't want our players to feel forced to buy it. They will always be able to carry forward. The last thing we want to do is leave our players behind.' Do you remember that deej? I sure do. So when TTK came out, did you decide to just screw over all those people that bought the game already but didn't want this new DLC? Did you feel it was right, it was justified to lock then out of content [i]they already paid for?[/i] Content such as the vendors, the nightfall, the weekly, trials of Osiris. All of which they paid for when buying destiny (HOW for trials). But you left them all behind. Exactly like you said you wouldn't. But hey, they didn't rebuy the entire game and every DLC along with the TTK, screw them! Right?"
[b]Addition[/b] "Another thing deej has said over the course of destiny: light level and gear. When DB released they made everyone's hard work pointless. All gear was left behind. Then they said oops, the last thing we wanted to do was make all your gear and hardwork meaningless. So HOW was released and they allowed everything to be carried forward with a special item. Awesome. They stuck to their word. And then the TTK was released and they went back on their word. Again. Just like for many other issues. Have some consistency guys."
"Is it so hard to admit mistakes? People make them. Companies make them. Revert your nightfall and weekly back to how it was Y1. Everyone liked if better. No one likes Y2."
There's so many more. Please Feel free to add.
TL/DR
[spoiler]WHY BUNGIE LIE TO US AND NOT ACTUALLY LISTEN? HERE ARE QUESTIONS[/spoiler]
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Edited by Chrismhoop: 2/29/2016 3:54:39 AMThis post is now about things bungie has either done well or things they have done per our request. I'll start. Add vault space. Add SRL. Add trick sparrows. Nerf vex Nerf suros Nerf sumbreakers Nerf thorn Hire a second community manager. Create a space to show off art. Feature our art. Those are just a few. Feel free to add more. And feel free to ignore Mr grinch and Mr scrooge who run rampant I'm these forums.
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Just take this bump I mean taco
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Edited by Zepheroph: 3/1/2016 4:52:20 AMI challenge Bungie to answer. All of us, and Bungie included desire for this game to be outstanding. And we get a "fun", shit-show. Bump
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Let's keep this post alive guys![spoiler]Bump. [/spoiler]
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It's tough when you don't get your own way isn't it?
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They have done the best they can do with their servers(I'm not a bungie fanboy or hater I'm just a bystander). Its your fault that you have crap net go get a good net and your good to go don't play video games online if your net is stale as horse shit
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Came for the riddle, stayed for the valid points
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I agree with most of what you said. The only part I disagree with is when you said TtK is way more of a grind than year 1.
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Bungie will never acknowledge you. They never acknowledge any post that criticizes the way they do things. Bungie only employs retards now.
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Edited by O_Town_Racer: 2/29/2016 2:39:32 PMTo be fair - you can use Yr 1 gear for all content up to TTK and normal Crucible. Light becomes relevant when you try fighting the Taken, run missions/patrol on the Dreatnaught, daily mission, Nightfalls, IB, Trials, and the higher level strikes. My hope is that if/when the old raids are bumped up in difficulty, they also allow us to bring forward the gear we earned from them. Bungie changes their mind almost as often as the wind changes direction. Wait long enough and it's bound to blow in your direction.
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You're totally right. They should probably get people to roast them during their marketing events.
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Bump.
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Well, the Division is out in just over a week? Join me and pick that one up.
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This is brilliantly written and accurately pinpoints pretty much everything Bungie has done to lose the trust of myself and many players. Went from one of the best most respect games development studios, to one of the most greedy, selfish bunch of liars on the planet. The game Destiny doesn't have too many flaws, its pretty good actually, the problem? Lies in the company that thinks they know better than everyone else, give this game to Blizzard, Bungie doesn't deserve it.
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Thanks. I feel the same. You can add "No one asked for the NF buff to be removed, elemental primaries to be removed, so why were these changed" However both could be tucked into the gear being left behind and loot system lie. Kudos for the post. Sadly Luke Smith will feel you don't know what you're talking about.
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Yeah, it really grinds my gears when people have opportunities to actually talk to people with Bungie, not just Deej/Cozmo, and completely flub the chance to ask them some hard hitting questions. If you listen to any Destiny podcasts, a lot of "big name" people (in the Destiny community) just roll over and take the BS changes.
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GET RID OF INFUSION!! Go back to the ORIGINAL LIGHT SYSTEM!!
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Amen! Read this Bungie!!!!!!!!!
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Bumped for fun
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Edited by SurrealistGhost: 2/28/2016 3:14:00 PMHey Bungie! Are you listening? This dude bringin' up some really valid points.
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Bump.
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