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[quote]The only problem with this is that everything is allowed. That being said, the Flood and Hive are eerily similar, especially to the Taken. It would be likely that they would sort of team up, since neither would be able to take the other over completely.
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The flood have Keyminds which warp reality and star rods that destroyed worlds.
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And as for mechanized enemies, well. I'm pretty sure that the Vex would be able to time-loop them or something until they figured out how to bypass any of their defenses. Sorry to say it, but Destiny's lore is a bit more powerful than Halos.
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Proof they can do this?
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Speaking of which, those only affect what is alive. So, the Hive would probably be fine. Unless it kills their worms, then they might have a problem.[/quote]
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Precursors could solo because they are beyond time space and warp reality. But the Forerunners and Flood probably could solo as well. In the end this battle is a stalemate if any of the destiny heavy hitters start in their home dimensions.
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Proof that the precoursers are beyond time and space? Also, the flood and forerunners could just be taken and once the flood kill a taken entity, they can't use it as the taken are zapped back to their dimension.
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They may have existed before the universe. The Gravemind tells us something impossible to understand— that most of what has been gathered comes from before there were stars. We do not believe in such a time, but the Mind insists … The life-patterns and living wisdom of a hundred billion years. Bear, Greg (2013-03-19). Halo: Silentium (Forerunner) (p. 322). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. Their beings can reanimate as the Gravemind top the Didact he and the Primordial were the same. THE ONE THE Didact questioned on Charum Hakkor arrived on the margins of our galaxy nine million years before. That one was discovered by humans decades before the end of the war. We are the same. Bear, Greg (2013-03-19). Halo: Silentium (Forerunner) (p. 173). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. You can only be Taken by having your will over whelmed, he can't take the Flood hive mind. Forerunner personal armor also have AIs which can reinstate a previous personality save if they detect a personality disorder. He also can only take so many people at a time. A few thousand I would guess.
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Oryx can take much more than a thousand. He is actually immortal. He is far more powerful than you think. He and either Crota or his Sister were able to take a moon to the phase and laughed it off. Literally. He's taken entire worlds in a few hours. His son Crota, is no push-over either as he threw him threw a vex gate, to the most remote corner of time and made him come back the hard way. By simply living his way there. Slaughtering anything and setting up temples to his father. Oryx and his Sisters killed each other to strengthen each other and each time they come back, they are more powerful. If you are still not convinced, Oryx defeated a vex mind that was compleat ontological. If that mind wanted to just simply remove something from reality, it could. Oryx killed that mind.
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[quote]Oryx can take much more than a thousand. ------ But he can't take millions seeing as he couldn't take all the Cabal or other forces. ------ He is actually immortal. He is far more powerful than you think. ------ He can warp reality in his throne room and withstand a moon blowing up. ------ He and either Crota or his Sister were able to take a moon to the phase and laughed it off. Literally. He's taken entire worlds in a few hours. ------ But were they as powerful as the Flood or Forerunners? Also he couldn't take the Solar system, and how will he counter the things I mentioned? ------ His son Crota, is no push-over either as he threw him threw a vex gate, to the most remote corner of time and made him come back the hard way. By simply living his way there. Slaughtering anything and setting up temples to his father. Oryx and his Sisters killed each other to strengthen each other and each time they come back, they are more powerful. If you are still not convinced, Oryx defeated a vex mind that was compleat ontological. If that mind wanted to just simply remove something from reality, it could. Oryx killed that mind.[/quote] ------ Context? Also what's to stop him from being frozen in time?
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That's not smart. If you freeze time, it freezes not just oryx but everyone.
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Edited by Edcub One: 3/4/2016 11:03:39 PMI mean the Forerunners trap him in a bubble of frozen time.
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Edited by BloodyAlien243: 3/4/2016 11:40:02 PMOryx can just kill himself, and that would send him back to the high war. Oryx and his sisters can come back to life if someone guff old their purpose. Oryx's being navigation, understanding, being brave/bravery, and an act of cunning. [spoiler]even though this will have no affect on the argument, the hive onced killed an advanced council of interstellar species called the Ecumene. The forerunner kingdom was called the Ecumene[/spoiler]
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Edited by Edcub One: 3/4/2016 11:40:07 PMBut time would be frozen, how can he do anything?
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From what I know, the forerunners were never able to freeze time. They were able to dialate it in a controlled zone.
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They can freeze it. Ghosts of Onyx; ch. 36. Kurt flickered on his helmet's tactical lights, and panned them over the chamber. Organometallic appendages cradled each pod and radiated branches that connected to banks of two-meter cubes. On closer inspection, Kurt saw a faint light leaking from these cubes… and staring closer, he noticed they were not at all cubes—their edges distorted and radiated extra dimensions. He staggered back, hands reflectively grasping for his temples. Disorientation washed over him as he tasted the faint green light, inhaled the dusty odors of meaning from the symbols on the floor, and heard the bell like tinkling of the organic electronics of the pods. He sank to one knee and the tangled sensory input faded. "Stand back," Kurt warned the others. Over the COM he said, "Will, escort Dr. Halsey up here." Another wave of disorientation hit Kurt and his vision swam. When he again could see. Dr. Halsey knelt next to him. "Move him away from the machines," she told Will. Will dragged him back to the room's entrance, and Kurt's vision immediately cleared and the dizziness vanished. "What was that?" he asked Dr. Halsey. "Unshielded Slipspace field," she said. Her face was a mask of concentration, staring at the cubic machine housing. Frowning, she crossed to the pods. "Linda," she said, "your assistance please." Linda moved up to Dr. Halsey, her sniper rifle aimed at the floor. "Use your weapon's range finder; point at the interior of the pod." Linda nodded, raised her rifle, and aimed at the Spartan inside the pod. After a moment, she lowered the weapon, checked her Oracle scope's settings, and then repeated the procedure. She shook her head. "You are reading an infinite range?" Dr. Halsey said. "Yes," Linda replied, uncharacteristic annoyance in her tone. "There must be something wrong with it." "No," Dr. Halsey replied. "I'm afraid it is in perfect working order." She turned to Kurt. "I cannot revive your Spartans or the other three, Lieutenant Commander. They are not in cryogenic suspension." Kurt shook off the last traces of confusion. "Explain," he said. "They are encased in a Slipspace field. The process to stabilize such a field in normal space is well beyond any technology we or the Covenant possess. Essentially these Spartans are here, but not, extruded into an alternate set of spatial coordinates and excluded from time." "They're right here," Linda said, and pointed at the pods. "No," Dr. Halsey said. "You are merely seeing their afterimage. It's like looking at a mass accelerated past the event horizon of a black hole. Its image may linger there forever, but it is gone." "So they're gone?" Linda whispered. "Oh no," Dr. Halsey replied. "They're right here." Kurt said, "You just said they're gone. Which is it?" Dr. Halsey considered a moment and then replied, "Both. The quantum-mechanical implications do not translate to simple, nonparadoxical, classical terms." "Then let's stick to practical terms," Kurt said, growing annoyed. "Are they safe?" She tilted her head, considering, and then replied, "You could detonate a nuclear warhead on these pods and because the extruded Slipspace within is not in this dimension, there would be no effect to their contents."
