They were comparing the betas. Seems like another hype train. For what it's worth, comparing the 2 right now, I know I will like Destiny better. The violence in the division does seem realistic. Coming from someone who's held down friends' bullet wounds, it's not a fun thing to witness. The violence in destiny is more like a comic book. It's not very graphic at all. I don't know if the division will be quite that graphic. I still pre ordered it. We will see.