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Edited by Chlo:
3/9/2016 1:20:56 PM
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How are firebolts with the burning perks OP?
[spoiler]they aren't[/spoiler] [spoiler]try to prove that they are OP[/spoiler] [spoiler]you can't[/spoiler] [spoiler]it looks like some of you don't know how to stay back or run and communicate with your teammates to also stay back[/spoiler] [spoiler]it takes up 2 perks and doesn't even kill you[/spoiler] [spoiler]its not OP , its ok[/spoiler] [spoiler] I said STAY BACK and people or I mean retards are still saying IT LEAVES YOU ONE SHOT FOR 14 SECONDS,SO OP and that one shot thing isn't that good more bullshit like that [/spoiler] [spoiler]there is somethings that do this thing called KILL[/spoiler]
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Because if u throw a fire bolt with the burning perk it does 126 damage so u can shoot them with pretty much anything and it will kill them there do I need to say more... No I don't because it's op
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32 RepliesFirebolts, lightnings and wombo combo should all be nerfed.
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I can't prove that they are OP, but equally you can't prove that they are not, it's all down to opinion. In my opinion the burn with Viking Funeral lasts too long and takes you out of the fight for even longer. One of the perks applies to the melee, which is already very strong, and a lot of subclasses don't get great bonuses in those perk trees or the bonuses also apply to the grenade. The trouble is that in elimination especially, and sort of in all 3v3 game modes the enemy is communicating, and all they have to do to turn the match into a 3v2 (for them) is to land a grenade somewhere near you and rush hard whilst you are taking cover, which brings up the other OP thing about the grenade; the fact that it does full damage even if you are right at the edge of the radius, and it is nearly impossible to escape without shadestep, no other grenade does this and also burns you.
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It takes you down to crit and leaves you vulnerable for a long period of time.
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I think they would be okay without the Viking Funeral. it's just the fact that one grenade and the 2 perks with one body shot of the last word (which is used quite often) can burn u out. but if u manage to escape without getting hit by anything else u r taken out of the fight for 10+ seconds. just my opinion, and I for one don't think that it's such a big deal that it needs to be taken out of the game.
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The problem most certainly isn't the damage, the problem is that it stops you from recovering. If the firebolt did all its damage at once, or maybe twice as fast, it would be much more balanced.
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They're not op. Skip grenades are worse
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I want it to kill faster, not tease my about my death 10 seconds later >.>
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The grenade is OP because of its ability to hit multiple targets without being precise. Once someone hits you with it, all they have to do is hit you with one round of a primary and it will kill you. Also, once hit, the burn is long enough for the person who hit you to chase you down and at least keep your health down until you are cornered or trapped. If you ha e enough discipline, your grenade will be recharged by the time your target gets his health back leading to an endless loop of Firebolt spamming. All other grenades have some type of drawback, you either have to be precise, or the grenade deals a max of 80 damage. The only thing comparable to Firebolts is the Wombo Combo which is also OP. My advice would be to look at this from everyone's perspective instead of defending an OP grenade because that's your favorite class. If you have ever played Trials or Crucible at all as something other than a Warlock, you would know exactly what people feel when they get paired up against a team of warlocks. If you don't understand this, try playing CoD MW2 without using a Newb Tube
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I was really hoping he had three warlocks
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Its not OP, just frustrating. I mean isn't the general idea for most games to "Not stand in the fire"?
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Forget it. Once these players all complain that something is OP, that's it. There's no going back. It'll get nerfed, the nerf herders will praise it and bash anyone who's pissed off by it, not giving a damn whether it's unusable or shit after the nerf, as long as they no longer have to deal with it. If it ends up getting nerfed into the ground, just use Voidwalker. It's still an excellent Subclass, and the best part is no one bitches about it. Well, they still bitch about Axion Bolt, but that's about it.
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In the time I waited for burn to fade I came to the forums, scrolled to this thread, and read the comments before posting
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2 Replieslol went flawless Friday night. All we did was make sure we were all warlocks, have fast Rez, 1 warlock runs double grenades, the other 2 have Viking funeral and burn on, put on your doctrines and shotguns. THEN rush with firebolt grenades and to finish them off doctrine or a shotty. [spoiler]we killed at least 5 sunbreakers, 3 bubbles, 2 stormcallers and a shit ton of bladedancers,[/spoiler]
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Even if they nerf them, I'll still bloody use them. I like there area control effect. So fuk you all that want the nerf!
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5 RepliesThe other perks are shit. Angel of light ? Not using that in Trials
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I think people just dislike how long the burn lasts. The burn itself lasts... what was it? 9 seconds or something like that? And it kills you if you are hit with anything else. I just think people consider it cheap. I too think it's a bit cheap but I haven't run into too many people using it, since I don't play Crucible much.
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When they hit for about 80% around corners and on multiple people, yeah, there's a problem. If I nail a kill with an Incendiary or Magnetic grenade, I had to aim/bounce the nade, whereas Firebolts just track.
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Imo, my main issue is they keep keep you out of the fight for too long. For a grenade that's so easy to use as well. Axion Bolts are annoying enough. Other than that, damage is still somewhat fine
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Lightning Grenades need Burn.
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😎😎it is 😎😎
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Stay back is your solution? Lmao. You can chuck a grenade in any corner and it'll hit a target for 85% of their health.
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You don't think firebolts are op? Hahahahaha!!! Wait, are you serious?
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6 RepliesI don't want them nerfed but stop saying "it takes 2 perks". Lets be real, other than gift of the sun there are not other perks worth the slots.
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They are. I win.
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True, indeed. Those who cry nerf are ignorant.
