They are entertaining to watch, keep a fun stream, with well run chat and put on a good show.. you can watch ANYBODY just play a game (at any skill level) but the point is to be entertained, no? I find those two pretty entertaining.. there are a lot of entertaining streamers (some you named some you didn't). also they are very good about streaming very regularly for many hours a day.. better to get a regular audience if you stream like that..