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3/15/2016 9:50:08 PM
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Free will does not mean having the liberty to do what you want. It is knowing that you are free in Christ from death and eternal torture. God wants us to live pure and loving lives, but we can't when we're trapped in the prison cell of sin.
One person I know compared sin to a prison cell dressed like a mansion. We don't want to leave at all because we are comfy and cozy here, until the doors shut and all of your pillows and pleasantries are replaced with torture devices.
Back at the time of Noah, humanity was a hellhole. Murderers and rapists were running rampant and hardly anyone was faithful. Don't say that infants were innocent, because they would have live awful and torturous lives in the environment they grow up in.
The only way to restore humanity to a faithful and happy life was through the flood. It was almost like God's reset.
Please treat this like a legitimate conversation and don't result to insults or petty arguments. I provided a perfectly logical argument.
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 3/15/2016 11:57:14 PMWhen you give a list of don'ts and then name the punishment, it's incredibly distorted. As is the morality that is derived from it. That's more or less just attempting to dictate behavior through fear.
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How is it distorted? You give a list of rules and then tell what will happen if you don't follow them. God also teaches us to fear him, and know his wrath if we do not obey his laws. It's not very different from a modern court. He loves us dearly, but is still a judge who must punish wrongdoing.
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 3/16/2016 12:03:00 AMThat's imposing fear. How is that, in and of itself, moral? If someone can't tell the difference between right and wrong, they lack empathy. Not fear of something. If they are acting out of fear of personal punishment, that's a pretty selfish reason to do the right thing. Do the right thing because it's considerate(empathy). Not because you're worried about punishment. If that's the main thing keeping someone from doing what's wrong, I seriously question how good of s person they are to begin with.
