The fact that you keep droning on about Warframe being "pay2win" either shows you've never really actually played it and are going by things you've heard people say, or have played it but not enough to fully understand how it works. Also, "Prime rewards program", what? What is a Prime rewards program and how do I become a part of it? Primes are better, upgraded versions of older weapons (though for whatever reason sometimes Prime weapons are literally objectively [i]worse[/i] than their normal counterpart, lmao) which one can achieve by grinding the location/gametype they've been assigned to. Prime Frames, AKA essentially Prime characters for those who do not know about Warframe, are usually just visually different with an added polarity on their mod slots and one or two stats slightly buffed up (For example, Frost Prime has a higher shield capacity compared to normal Frost). I do have to mention that DE has the awful habit of stuffing almost all new Prime stuff in T3 Survival, meaning getting the new stuff you want becomes awful because of how much unwanted loot you get, since loot drops every 5 minutes in a survival. In a way, I do see why you think Warframe is "pay to win", and it's an easy and understandable misconception. Immediately when people grind the materials for a new weapon or item, and hit "build" button in the Foundry, they notice that they don't get their new goodies immediately - they have to wait for it to build, and the time varies depending on what type of thing you're building. But wait, there's a "rush" button - but it costs plat (the microtransaction currency of WF)? Wow, this game is pay to win! The thing here is, it's free to play. That is just another way for DE to make money from an otherwise free game. If people want to buy plat and support the developer, they can go right ahead - but plat is never [b]needed[/i] for anything, unless we're talking about cosmetics. Cosmetics are in no way required and give no power to the player, as usual. "But certain weapons are much stronger than others and you can pay for them with plat to get them instantly!" - If people choose to do that, more power to them. Considering how expensive plat is, however, and considering they could've just had the patience to build the thing and patiently wait for it, maybe play some other games while it builds and come back later, it's not exactly something I'd call smart. Platinum can also be fairly easily acquired by trading rare mods, prime parts, etc. with other players for plat. On top of this, we have to consider what kind of game Warframe is - it has tons of Frames and weapons at this point. In a game with as many weapons and frames as Warframe, there's bound to be a "meta" in which some weapons are far superior compared to the rest. No matter how DE changes their game, there will always be those few guns and frames that are favored over others. Sound familiar? Oh, right, [i]hello Destiny.[/i] Going back to the "Prime Rewards Program", I assume you're talking about the option to purchase the latest Prime gear in one huge bundle with real money. Yeah, that's a thing - but frankly, you'd be insane to just go ahead and casually buy one with the price it has. I can't remember the exact price right off the bat, but the current Prime Access pack featuring Saryn Prime and some other stuff is like, what, 150€? That's ludicrous, and again, it's only something I see people buying if they reeeeeeally want to support the developer. Do keep in mind that I intend no malice - I'm trying to be informative more than anything. I speak as someone who has played Warframe for two years, and over that time, I've only spent 30€ on the game (and even those only when I've gotten Platinum discounts from login rewards) to buy a few cosmetics because I wanted to support DE and their game.