[quote]Ok we have to address that speed of light thing, yes superman could have moved out of the way but he was surprised caught off guard so he didn't. If I move in to slap you, you could move out of the way but most likely wouldn't be able to without warning. ------ His perception is faster then light. ------ His contingency didn't fail as superman was the one hospitalized not batman. Also he took down the entire justice league.... ------ Ok Failed is probably not the best word, but he would have been crushed if he had no kryptonite. Also Superman withstands attacks from Metallo, yet goes down to a few fragments of kryptonite. I blame the writers. ------ Yes I will agree he might have been groggy from the joker gas but it doesn't change the fact that at full strength yes batman could beat superman.[/quote] ------ He can, but he loses most of the time.