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in destiny if you want to do pvp, strike playlists or weekly heroic strikes it has matchmaking, raids and trials of osiris dose not have matchmaking. division doesn't have anything that is an equivalent to any of those things....
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  • challenging difficulty missions are easily as difficult as year 1 nightfalls, and have matchmaking. Incursions are likely to be divisions version of raids, and we don't know yet if it will have MM or not but so far as I know ubisofts stance is that everything has MM. Bringing up trials as dumb as heck, considering that the division isn't about arena PvP, and by the by the endgame PvP it does have, DOES have matchmaking.

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  • It's getting exhausting the amount of times I have to say that I never once said division doesn't have match making. I personally prefer LFG because I have made a ton of friends off of it, when I match make in other games, including division, it's just a bunch of silent people who are in a party chat with someone else. It is relevant to bring up crucible and trials because those are more experiences that destiny has that division doesn't and the argument I hear is division has so much more to do but it doesn't. Once you hit 30 it's over as the gear is not worth grinding for IMO since it all looks and feels the same.

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  • it's experiences that the division doesn't have because IT"S A DIFFERENT GAME. It has some comparable aspects yes. Arena based PvP is not one of them, so stop comparing apples and oranges. Good for you, you like arena PvP. Not having it doesn't make a game bad.

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  • They are both in the same genre "shared world shooter" it's not apples and oranges. Comparing halo to WoW is apples to oranges. If I say halo has warzone which is a fun large scale PvPvE experience but gears of war doesn't have it, they are both shooters they have are comparable it's an advantage for halo. I never said it makes division a bad game I said its features destiny has that division doesn't, so saying division has soooo much to do is false. There is no end game, destiny had an objectively far superior end game even in vanilla.

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  • Edited by OJ191: 3/19/2016 11:32:41 PM
    Except.. I've never once seen Division officially called a shared world shooter. Which in any case is just a bullshit genre bungie made up to hide the fact that their game couldn't cut it in several other genres, mostly due to lack of content. And oh look now you're comparing the end-game when the division end-game hasn't even released yet. OH WAIT THAT'S THE SAME AS DESTINY ON LAUNCH.

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  • Crucible was at launch, VoG came after one week... It's been two weeks and we don't even have a DATE for when incursions are coming. Which I'm pretty confident is gonna be a slightly longer story mission

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  • Edited by OJ191: 3/20/2016 12:03:05 AM
    crucible isn't endgame so far as I remember trials and iron banner weren't in on launch. BTW the existing story missions are already longer than crota's end ^_^ as for incursions stop making wild baseless claims when there is no info about them yet. Ubisoft wouldn't be going for the crazy surprise reveal if they were just going to be longer story missions, because that would be retarded and kill their fanbase. You don't surprise reveal total Crap. Maybe if they were trying to sell season passes, except incursions are free.

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  • If crucible isn't endgame then dark zone isn't either lol which means division went from having very little end game to ZERO endgame.

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  • You haven't played have ya...the division has matchmaking for every single activity within its own game.

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  • Edited by Motion Man: 3/18/2016 11:15:41 PM
    I have played it, check my gamer tag. also read my post I never said that it did not have it. I said destiny also has it... it just doesnt have it for high end activities like raids or trials. I said divsion doesnt have end game activities like raids or strikes or pvp or anything

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  • The dark zone is pvp and the fact your shit can get taken makes it pretty end game. Yeah destiny has strikes and raids (well if you wanna call 6 men strikes a raid. Every raid in destiny has been soloed not making it credible as a raid. At launch the division has nearly as many missions as destiny does in all its entirety y1 and ttk. We get our "incursion" in 3 more weeks which will be considered more a raid because of how massive it will be. There us so much to do in the division as is whitout even having to pvp it just adds to the fun. Also whay do you think all those cell phone recordings, crashed drones, missing persons reports and echoes are? I believe its called lore.

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  • ya havent played dark zone have ya? no one shoots eachother unless by accident because there is no incentive to do so. (this is backed up by the community and the developer) you can solo any content in the division. the raids in destiny are generally praised as some of the best co op/ shooter experiences available. Vanilla destiny story missions: A Guardian Rises Restoration The Dark Within The Warmind The Last Array The Dark Beyond The World's Grave The Sword of Crota Chamber of Night The Shrine of Oryx A Stranger's Call The Ishtar Collective The Archive Scourge of Winter Eye of a Gate Lord Exclusion Zone The Garden's Spire The Buried City A Rising Tide The Black Garden TOTAL: 20 according to the IGN Division Wiki it has 16 although I think it actually has more... however not much more then 20. if you wanted to add the dlc as you claimed then it would have many more missions. not that it matters as in these types of games those are just a means to an end to get to the endgame content which is the main attraction... which the division doesnt have. I also enjoy how you talk about how massive the incursion is going to be when there is not any info released on it what so ever, If i had to guess it will be a Russian consulate with maybe 2 bosses.

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  • There were i believe 26 missions at launch in the division.

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  • Im rank 20 in dz. And see rogues all the time pal don't know when you are on but when I am playing I usually run into a few.

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  • ok so one was a cutscene, one was a tutorial so it had 3 more missions then destiny. WOW. also: http://www.vg247.com/2016/03/18/the-division-dark-zone-needs-fixing/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/03/13/the-divisions-dark-zone-endgame-is-currently-a-mess/#11080d9dcd34 http://www.vg247.com/2016/03/15/the-divisions-dark-zone-is-being-geared-towards-creating-more-pvp-encounters/ http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/03/15/the-division-dark-zone-update-ubisoft/ http://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/03/the-divisions-dark-zone-is-definitely-a-work-in-progress/ looks like the dark zone im playing is the same one everyone else is playing...

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  • Edited by The Devourer: 3/19/2016 12:04:55 AM
    Well my experience differs..... and yeah it was a big whoop about the missions. You deliberately tried to criticize the division for lack of shit to do when you are defending a worse game. I love destiny too bro but not that damn much.

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  • not trying to criticize or "frblack"(?) just trying to not reinforce stupidity by allowing people to spew BS and misinformation. :)

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  • I mean ffs you are trying to say that destiny has more shit to do than division and calling me stupid because of a few typos. You made many points in your endeavor to criticize the division that just wasn't true. The first was about lfg and in game matchmaking. But whatever. Have a nice one.

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  • Edited by The Devourer: 3/19/2016 12:11:56 AM
    Yeah my typos were fixed grammar monitor. Nice try though. Having to resort to insulting typos because you have no good points. This debate is over. Dueces

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  • Edited by Motion Man: 3/19/2016 12:54:07 AM
    lol. you started by saying that I never played division because i said it doesnt have matchmaking, even though I never said that. so you were wrong there. then you said im wrong when i said division has no real PvP and you said the dark zone is PvP, i presented multiple articles from different sources talking about how broken it is and you said "well thats just yours (and the majority of the communities) opinion man...." then you said division has way more missions then destiny and every dlc pack complained, then you back tracked and said " and yeah it was a big whoop about the missions." when I actually showed you the facts. I resorted to presenting actual facts and evidence, you resorted to running away, good job :)

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  • And I didn't run run from your articles on people's experience. They aren't fact they are opinions btw. I havce had a different experience what xam I say. But the major point I am making is all your bullet points were biased and untrue. Bashing a game that was released less than 2 weeks ago for no end game content yet when this game didn't recieve it for a month after release. The difference is the division will have in game matchmaking for it.

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  • Also I said division has nearly as many missions as Destiny in it's entirety not that it has more. Please don't put words into my mouth.

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  • vault of glass came out 1 week after destiny launched, another fact to follow an incorrect statement you brought up. The developer of the division said on the record to the fans that the dark zone has balance issues and they are looking to find ways to increase player engagement in the PvP aspect of it so its not really my opinion. combining queens wrath, dark below, house of wolves, taken king would almost triple the amount of missions in the division, so i wouldn't call that nearly, another false statement. also I have said many times im comparing launch vanilla destiny to the division. vanilla launched with more to do and an endgame.

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  • Also lets not forget that a large potion of those missions are completely obsolete. With a spark of light a gaurdian could skip through a whole years worth of content.

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  • So what you are saying is that before ttk destiny had around 70 missions give or take? Lmfao it doesn't have that many now

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