[quote]You don't have to chase, just simply tag and put a bullet of anything in besides and AR (which would be a few bullets) or a burst of a pulse and they're dead. Tne hunter includes both the melee and the grenade and the other is only using the grenade, therefore if gou're comparing them you must only compare the smoke. The warlock melee can 1 shot low armor builds, and burn everything else to virtually no health left all while applying DoT and giving the user a overshield. (which increases in strength when using a high armor build) Couple that with the warlocks ridiculous melee (not just the range, but also the fact it will turn 45+ degrees to hit someone for you), then you've got yourself a substantially stronger set of abilities.[/quote] Did you miss my whole point? Its called TRADE OFF. I compared to two because of the amount of effects/ease of use it takes to throw the wombo. The over shield is 50 hp so just like how you stated 1 bullet or a couple AR shots or a pulse eould finish someone off after a firebolt, that will work to break the shield. And no, the shield NEVER gets stronger. Ever. Back to your " one bullet will tinish you" point; go count how many grenades leave you at 1 shot, come bck when youre done, ill be waiting. This is such a dumb come back. I could also bring up how keen scout and shadestep have their maaaaany positives but like i said, its trade off, yes it takes two grenades BUT IT DOES MORE THEN ANY OTHER GRENADE COMBO IN THE GAME. Yes, firebolts do DoT and have a nice radius (was nerfed) but they do less damage than most grenades besides suppressor/flashbang/pulse.