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3/23/2016 4:34:12 PM
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You are whining about hunters being able to kill someone with grenade + melee and your argument is that warlocks grenade doesn't even get close? Dude no shit every grenade + melee kills. The problem is that the warlock melee man kill BY IT SELF and that Firebolts almost do the same. With a DoT of 10 -blam!-ing hours. Warlocks are OP and have to be nerfed. Don't shove this on the hunters.
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[quote]You are whining about hunters being able to kill someone with grenade + melee and your argument is that warlocks grenade doesn't even get close? Dude no shit every grenade + melee kills. The problem is that the warlock melee man kill BY IT SELF and that Firebolts almost do the same. With a DoT of 10 -blam!-ing hours. Warlocks are OP and have to be nerfed. Don't shove this on the hunters.[/quote] Im not whining at all. I also dont think either class is op. Did you ever read the fvcking post? Please think before you open your mouth. Firebolt does 157 damage, not one guardian has 157 health, please educate yourself. The melee can only one shot low armor builds but so can multiple other grenades and abilities. Donyou understand wtf trade off is? Or is that a hard concept for your window licking self to comprehend? Yes wombo takes two charges but its THE ONLY combo that does what it does. And before your dim witted self brings up how melee/grenade combos kill in any class, im not talking about damage and ttk, im talking about the effects the grenade has. This post is about IF you consider sunsinger op due to firebolt that you have to consider nightstalker op due to wombo. Please, come justify your skill set with "but it takes skill" , "its about HOW firebolts kill" , or my favorite "wombo is hard to use". If any of those apply tonyou, your a scrub and will die no matter what hits you.
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Read the post. Firebolt does 157 damage. That's the lowest maximum damage of EVERY grenade in the game. No warlock melee can one hit kill except a charged Sunsinger melee. Blink Strike one hits from behind and often the front, from farther than Stormcaller's melee range with Amplitude range boost. Hunter's have throwing knives and Smoke on top of their grenades. Titans can shoulder charge. Warlocks are the only class without an evade OR special ability.
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Fanboy.
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While I can attempt to put myself in your shoes and understand where you're coming from, I'm not sure you're going to win too many people to your cause by calling them names and being difficult. Why not explain why you think what you do? Give some good points and counter-points, and people will probably be more willing to discuss the topic with you. :)
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Edited by Jet The Pirate: 3/23/2016 6:42:49 PM[quote]While I can attempt to put myself in your shoes and understand where you're coming from, I'm not sure you're going to win too many people to your cause by calling them names and being difficult. Why not explain why you think what you do? Give some good points and counter-points, and people will probably be more willing to discuss the topic with you. :)[/quote] To much logic. This thread is about how op logic is now.
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I think that, at some point, every thread devolves (yes I said "devolves") into discussions about logic. Many of us (myself specifically) try so hard to make sense, that we forget some folks just don't want to hear it. Some folks are salty just to be salty. (Not saying that about this "Alex" guy, though.) Sorry for derailing the thread! XD
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Do you think I'm wrong?
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[quote]Read the post. Firebolt does 157 damage. That's the lowest maximum damage of EVERY grenade in the game. No warlock melee can one hit kill except a charged Sunsinger melee. Blink Strike one hits from behind and often the front, from farther than Stormcaller's melee range with Amplitude range boost. Hunter's have throwing knives and Smoke on top of their grenades. Titans can shoulder charge. Warlocks are the only class without an evade OR special ability.[/quote] Thanks for being literate.
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You need a perk to one hit with blink strike. And nobody uses it or uses Bladedancer in general. And lowest damage in general? Really? I don't believe that one lol.
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Except you need two perks to make fire bolt viable...
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And you do need a perk and melee/grenade for wombo combo, everything has its trade off.
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What grenade can't do more than 157 damage? Solar grenades, Vortex grenades, Voidwall, Tripmine, Lightning, Pulse, Arcbolt, Fusion, Incendiary, all off the top of my head, can do MORE.
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[quote]You need a perk to one hit with blink strike. And nobody uses it or uses Bladedancer in general. And lowest damage in general? Really? I don't believe that one lol.[/quote] Go look it up. Educate before posting because its really sticking out here who knows and who doesnt know aboutbwhat theyre talking about.
