[quote]my guess is that is what causes the complaints. since sunsinger super really only reduces cooldown for grenades and melee... they get to grenade spam, which causes the hate for the grenade itself. which isn't directed at the super. and I am not complaining about supers at all. :) just pointing out the use of the grenade in the most effective way.[/quote] No. If you want to argue supers im all for it. I got alot of info and some pretty stout logic. You cant downplay smoke but exaggerate firebolt. Smoke and or wombo can be just as if not more effective due to firebolt ONLY doing DoT and having range. Looking at amount of effects of the two, wombo/smoke has muchbmore capabilities in terms of crippling teams. Firebolt on the other hand is amazing at crowd control and in the hands of the causual community, it is easier to obtain a kill due to nm lack of experiance. In the hands of top tier players.. well, there really isnt one better then the other.