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Edited by MainManiac: 3/24/2016 3:07:22 PM
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"On top of that, every grenade/melee combo in the game will kill you, so thats why i didnt bring it up." This exactly proves my point, while smoke is thrown in grenade form it uses a MELEE charge, making it a melee. If it wasn't counted as a melee I wouldn't be struggling to hit guardians 2 feet away with my little blade after I've used my smoke. The fact that its even an argument that a combination of a grenade and a melee charge, (that in your words is enough to kill with any class), is comparable to a single grenade should tell you the grenade might be a little too powerful. Since it is a fact that the smoke is a melee, I will fight you on your statement that it is the 'best. A smoke can be accurately thrown FROM A DISTANCE and then the enemy can be killed with a gun if used correctly. (Smoke does not prevent the use of a charge melee, so just spam scorch and it will auto snap to your target (: ) If a nightstalker engages in close quarters combat they essentially have no melee. You can't throw a smoke effectively at point blank range and the melee remaining after it is an absolute joke. Meanwhile, there is scorch. Scorch has a ridiculous range and auto attacks nearly anything in your field of view. Almost forgot its the highest hitting melee in the game at 180+ damage, increases your armor by 1, AND gives you a 55 health shield. I can't think of another classes melee that can two hit a warlock using scorch with flame shield, while a warlock can always two hit them. To be fair I have to throw shade step in as a pro for nightstalkers, which against a Sunsinger is only useful if running away as they auto snap you from any point in shade step with scorch. Then you'd have to compare a Voidwall/vortex to a firebolt nade. I mean c'mon, not wasting my time with that. Not to mention the supers, a bow that 5 times this weekend hit someone mid super only to have them kill me before the it could even register. A bow that can't even one shot a warlock with an active flame shield, vs. the ability to come back from the dead with double armor and the ability to spam the most powerful grenade in the game and one hit with the most powerful melee in the game. But yeah, Night Stalkers are OP.
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