I am biased toward Nighstalkers because I am using it currently, but I have used both as a main recently and am fully aware of the intricacies of both classes. As for the quotes you pulled: "come back from the dead with double armor" I didn't quite word this correctly, but during radiance activated from the grave, incoming damage is reduced by roughly 50%. While armor isn't increased, every bullet hit does half the normal damage, essentially giving them twice as much health as a standard guardian. See 1000-Yard stare damage fall off of 417 to 209 for a precision hit. I think it's quite clear what I meant originally, but if you want to call it out for my wording I guess I can't say I am surprised. "smoke doesn't lock charged melees" Go get smoked and report back here, I can tell you it does not. I always throw smokes at entry ways while I am smoked to give me a shot at evading. "I don't know of any class that can two hit a warlock" With this statement I am referring to two guardians engaging in a melee only fight. Warlocks do gain a 55 health shield, a quick google search will reveal that. With that added shield a standard blink strike + non charged melee, or amplitude + non charged melee would not be able to kill a warlock using scorch in two melee hits. I did however forget about a front proc backstab, which would be able beat a warlock, however that is clearly not very reliable. You claiming those statements as lies or exaggerated is just an ignorant way to draw attention away from your own bias. You're sitting up there on your high horse claiming I am biased and uneducated when you have created an entire thread trying to prove warlocks are not as powerful as the majority of the community claims and through your responses only supporting one side of your attempt to present both views. Even though you are too high and mighty to admit to your bias, we clearly have far differing opinions and it would only be a waste of both of our time to continue trying to convince one another. Not to mention our opinions aren't worth much, the game sits as is, and Bungie devs will change it as they see fit, I doubt our banter will have any effect on that.