Stack that with the fact that the scorch over shield only procs half the time|wait...| and can be blown away by low impact shotguns when it does (please stop shredding him) and of course, this is only if you didn't lose the charge on a dead body.

[quote]Wombo combo takes grenade and melee, fire bolt takes grenade, and then sun singer gets an over shield on hit, with massive melee range, I rest my case.[/quote] Ive addressed this in multiple comments and in my own post, please read before posting.

[quote][quote]Wombo combo takes grenade and melee, fire bolt takes grenade, and then sun singer gets an over shield on hit, with massive melee range, I rest my case.[/quote] Ive addressed this in multiple comments and in my own post, please read before posting.[/quote] And what have you addressed? That you're wrong? That you're stupid? If you can't throw a fire bolt and then run in and shoot them once, that's not warlocks being "clunky" that's tou sucking at the game. And fix the links in your post. If you use Wombo combo in your setup, you basically remove the options to use grenades or smoke in any other situation. Meanwhile warlocks are using their fire bolts and one shot melees independently, and get a second life, the ability to completely spam their fire bolts for 15 seconds. You know what the night stalker super does, it makes enemies more vulnerable to our weapons, you know the ones warlocks aren't using because of they're sniper melee and grenade spam

[quote][quote][quote]Wombo combo takes grenade and melee, fire bolt takes grenade, and then sun singer gets an over shield on hit, with massive melee range, I rest my case.[/quote] Ive addressed this in multiple comments and in my own post, please read before posting.[/quote] And what have you addressed? That you're wrong? That you're stupid? If you can't throw a fire bolt and then run in and shoot them once, that's not warlocks being "clunky" that's tou sucking at the game. And fix the links in your post. If you use Wombo combo in your setup, you basically remove the options to use grenades or smoke in any other situation. Meanwhile warlocks are using their fire bolts and one shot melees independently, and get a second life, the ability to completely spam their fire bolts for 15 seconds. You know what the night stalker super does, it makes enemies more vulnerable to our weapons, you know the ones warlocks aren't using because of they're sniper melee and grenade spam[/quote] Hahaha opinion much? Please get educated. Scorch is only a OHK in super, other then that its not. Soam firebolts? THAT OUR SUPER. im not complaining about your tether, or even wombo. This is a simple connection between the two. They are both strong. Not op imo. Sorry you cant read. But to claim one is op and not the other is ignorant af. Btw, in case you didnt know, max str/disc build plus sealed ahamkara grasps lets you spam 3 grenades every 25 seconds so stop being childish. Its ovbious you cant comprahend my post. Your ad hominem style tactics show your fragile argument. Stop downplaying your obvious advantages and stop exaggerating sunsingers, its immature and shows how you cant logically debate due to obvious biased. Set aside your negative experiances and think about this logically. Wombo is just as strong AND it has 4 times the effects.

[quote][quote][quote][quote]Wombo combo takes grenade and melee, fire bolt takes grenade, and then sun singer gets an over shield on hit, with massive melee range, I rest my case.[/quote] Ive addressed this in multiple comments and in my own post, please read before posting.[/quote] And what have you addressed? That you're wrong? That you're stupid? If you can't throw a fire bolt and then run in and shoot them once, that's not warlocks being "clunky" that's tou sucking at the game. And fix the links in your post. If you use Wombo combo in your setup, you basically remove the options to use grenades or smoke in any other situation. Meanwhile warlocks are using their fire bolts and one shot melees independently, and get a second life, the ability to completely spam their fire bolts for 15 seconds. You know what the night stalker super does, it makes enemies more vulnerable to our weapons, you know the ones warlocks aren't using because of they're sniper melee and grenade spam[/quote] Hahaha opinion much? Please get educated. Scorch is only a OHK in super, other then that its not. Soam firebolts? THAT OUR SUPER. im not complaining about your tether, or even wombo. This is a simple connection between the two. They are both strong. Not op imo. Sorry you cant read. But to claim one is op and not the other is ignorant af. Btw, in case you didnt know, max str/disc build plus sealed ahamkara grasps lets you spam 3 grenades every 25 seconds so stop being childish. Its ovbious you cant comprahend my post. Your ad hominem style tactics show your fragile argument. Stop downplaying your obvious advantages and stop exaggerating sunsingers, its immature and shows how you cant logically debate due to obvious biased. Set aside your negative experiances and think about this logically. Wombo is just as strong AND it has 4 times the effects.[/quote] Where tf are you getting that it has 4x the effect? Also I'm not saying either is op, you nugget.what I'm saying is that they are not equal and are incomparable.

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Wombo combo takes grenade and melee, fire bolt takes grenade, and then sun singer gets an over shield on hit, with massive melee range, I rest my case.[/quote] Ive addressed this in multiple comments and in my own post, please read before posting.[/quote] And what have you addressed? That you're wrong? That you're stupid? If you can't throw a fire bolt and then run in and shoot them once, that's not warlocks being "clunky" that's tou sucking at the game. And fix the links in your post. If you use Wombo combo in your setup, you basically remove the options to use grenades or smoke in any other situation. Meanwhile warlocks are using their fire bolts and one shot melees independently, and get a second life, the ability to completely spam their fire bolts for 15 seconds. You know what the night stalker super does, it makes enemies more vulnerable to our weapons, you know the ones warlocks aren't using because of they're sniper melee and grenade spam[/quote] Hahaha opinion much? Please get educated. Scorch is only a OHK in super, other then that its not. Soam firebolts? THAT OUR SUPER. im not complaining about your tether, or even wombo. This is a simple connection between the two. They are both strong. Not op imo. Sorry you cant read. But to claim one is op and not the other is ignorant af. Btw, in case you didnt know, max str/disc build plus sealed ahamkara grasps lets you spam 3 grenades every 25 seconds so stop being childish. Its ovbious you cant comprahend my post. Your ad hominem style tactics show your fragile argument. Stop downplaying your obvious advantages and stop exaggerating sunsingers, its immature and shows how you cant logically debate due to obvious biased. Set aside your negative experiances and think about this logically. Wombo is just as strong AND it has 4 times the effects.[/quote] Where tf are you getting that it has 4x the effect? Also I'm not saying either is op, you nugget.what I'm saying is that they are not equal and are incomparable.[/quote] Firebolt does long rangr damage plus DoT. Wombo does 2x damage, removes radar, blinds visually, cuts movement speed and locks abilities, jumps, supers and charged melees. Firebolts has 2 effects Wombo as 5 effects Understand now? And the last part is your opinion. This isnt a comparison to see how similar or how strong they are or what does more. The comparison was to shoe that firebotls are strong and some people think they need to be nerfed due to their strength. My post was to point out that wombo is of the same caliber as firebolt and to seek a nerf for one would be to also seek a nerf for the other one.. otherwise you are biased and not logically looking at the big picture I personally think they are balanced and neither need a nerf.