This isn't about PvP.
With Gjallahorn gone everyone is going to want high impact snipers for the new p.o.e. content.
This is a secret pve nerf. To inflate difficulty.
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To bad 12 sleeper shots does more than 2x the damage a full super of any kind can do.
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Edited by Lewie730: 4/8/2016 2:49:35 PM[quote]This isn't about PvP. With Gjallahorn gone everyone is going to want high impact snipers for the new p.o.e. content. This is a secret pve nerf. To inflate difficulty.[/quote] Yes, I agree, they are doing this to make POE artificially hard. Remember the old black hammer? No wonder they nerfed it before kings falls. Warpriest and golgaroth would be shaking in their boots at a full team with the old black hammer. They are making these changes to make it more difficult, what Bungie doesn't understand is each time the are pissing more people off. I used to be a huge defender of their balances, and I couldn't understand how people where getting so pissed off about the changes, now I know. I am now one of the people really, really upset, because I feel like they are truly ruining their game. Maybe it's because I liked this game so much, that's why I'm so mad. To the people defending the changes, I respect you, because I was exactly like you. Never in a million years did I think I would end up "on the other side", but here I am. I also think it's only a matter of time before something trips the switch for you, and you say "enough is enough of this bullshit". Why nerf the thorn more, especially if they aren't bringing it to year two? Does anyone remember the old thorn, that was complete shit? They buff it, becomes a crucible go to weapon (even though my buddy was using the MIDA way back then), gets nerfed, left in year one, then nerfed again. Bungie: WTF are you doing? I think your company has lost touch with reality. Quit giving us things that are fun to use, then nerf them into oblivion or leave them behind. Is this some big social experiment or what, because I'm confused as hell about your "fixes " Don't ever, ever, take power away from your players, it makes it feel like your punishing them. They better have an explicit plan detailed for part 2. I'm not giving Bungie another fu King dime, unless they fix all of this bullshit.
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[quote][quote]This isn't about PvP. With Gjallahorn gone everyone is going to want high impact snipers for the new p.o.e. content. This is a secret pve nerf. To inflate difficulty.[/quote] Yes, I agree, they are doing this to make POE artificially hard. Remember the old black hammer? No wonder they nerfed it before kings falls. Warpriest and golgaroth would be shaking in their boots at a full team with the old black hammer. They are making these changes to make it more difficult, what Bungie doesn't understand is each time the are pissing more people off. I used to be a huge defender of their balances, and I couldn't understand how people where getting so pissed off about the changes, now I know. I am now one of the people really, really upset, because I feel like they are truly ruining their game. Maybe it's because I liked this game so much, that's why I'm so mad. To the people defending the changes, I respect you, because I was exactly like you. Never in a million years did I think I would end up "on the other side", but here I am. I also think it's only a matter of time before something trips the switch for you, and you say "enough is enough of this bullshit". Why nerf the thorn more, especially if they aren't bringing it to year two? Does anyone remember the old thorn, that was complete shit? They buff it, becomes a crucible go to weapon (even though my buddy was using the MIDA way back then), gets nerfed, left in year one, then nerfed again. Bungie: WTF are you doing? I think your company has lost touch with reality. Quit giving us things that are fun to use, then nerf them into oblivion or leave them behind. Is this some big social experiment or what, because I'm confused as hell about your "fixes " Don't ever, ever, take power away from your players, it makes it feel like your punishing them. They better have an explicit plan detailed for part 2. I'm not giving Bungie another fu King dime, unless they fix all of this bullshit.[/quote] Just clarifying that thorn only had its mag size and reload buffed. It's damage for pve was increased but not for pvp. Thorn was doing the same damage in crucible since day one. They never buffed the damage of it for crucible. And I know because I used it. Other then that, I agree.
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I think they are trying to artificially make kf longer. Because in Poe I bet people will just use dragons breath to corner the mobs and nade them. Or just use zhalo to aoe them down or use the fusion rifle to aoe them down with explosions. If one person goes db one uses zhalo and one uses the exotic fusion that explodes in vpid damage. Use those you can probably just destroy. Or just stack one of them depending on the modifier. Tldr: Poe is a different raid, kf was designed around snipers Poe wasn't, you can still breeze through it with zhalo Dragons breath of the vpid fusion rifle
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[quote]I think they are trying to artificially make kf longer. Because in Poe I bet people will just use dragons breath to corner the mobs and nade them. Or just use zhalo to aoe them down or use the fusion rifle to aoe them down with explosions. If one person goes db one uses zhalo and one uses the exotic fusion that explodes in vpid damage. Use those you can probably just destroy. Or just stack one of them depending on the modifier. Tldr: Poe is a different raid, kf was designed around snipers Poe wasn't, you can still breeze through it with zhalo Dragons breath of the vpid fusion rifle[/quote] It's the telesto btw (void fusion rifle)
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Yeah the name escapes me when I was typing it. Thankyou tho
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[quote]Yeah the name escapes me when I was typing it. Thankyou tho[/quote] It's a pretty solid fusion rifle might take it out for a spin during poe actually for the lols
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I rock POE. I'm casual and not good at much but in EVERY game of POE I have the most kills. All of what you said is unnecessary. I run an armor piece that replenishes super with special kills and a sidearm. There's so many weak ads that I'm filling my special 3 or 4 times a round. There's enough green blocks that I never run out of ammo. If someone else is generating good orbs then I may get 5 or 6 trances a round. I run transcendence so I never use a grenade. From there just save your heavies for the boss.
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Yeah we are talking about challenge of elders post patch. Anyone can rock Poe because it is easy and old content
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I'm thinking the same strategy will work. You'll just need one guardian to clear ads and 2 to focus on the boss. But we'll find out soon. I'm very excited. Oh and not ANYONE can do it because it's old content. Or I wouldn't be first every time. And not just first, but double or triple the kills. And I assume they'll make the same mistake on the new POE, which is the ads spawning in the same spots every time.
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The sleeper will be the king of PoE in my opinion.
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exactly but we still have swords and Sleeper
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Sleeper yeah. But I'm almost certain swords will be useless in the new p.o.e. Bungie's knows about all the sword exploits in the prison already. I doubt they will be of use for the new content.
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Really? That's weird since swords are enormously useful in most PvE activities currently. Lol...
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People have been exploiting sword mechanics in the p.o.e. tho. Using the block to avoid the poison's death timer. All kinds of stuff.
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nah they are genius you only have to block
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[quote]This isn't about PvP. With Gjallahorn gone everyone is going to want high impact snipers for the new p.o.e. content. This is a secret pve nerf. To inflate difficulty.[/quote]
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^THIS