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4/9/2016 4:45:34 PM
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So humans aren't animals now? News to me. Please look up the definition of racist, I am not saying any race is supreme. If you want to deny facts that's on you.
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  • We are animals, but lumping us in with them, when we are much more removed from the natural world is idiotic. And only racists use terms like "Race Traitor"

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  • So we don't breed is what you're saying? Only fascists use terms like "racists". Look I can play this game too.

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  • Wow you are dense. I didn't say anywhere that we don't breed. But Humans don't need to worry about passing on any traits that are bad for living in the wild simply because we don't live in the wild. We change the environment to fit OUR needs, not the other way around, like every other animal. So inheriting legs that aren't the best suited for running isn't going to cripple our race like it would wild animals. Tell me a specific issue that could happen if two races integrated? I'm genuinely curious to hear what you are so afraid of happening.

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  • Human beings still should not purposely accept genetic traits that are disadvantageous. If there was a race that had a 50% chance of polio/SCA/diabetes/down syndrome would you think that we should continue breeding with those people? They would be nothing but a strain and it would be morally wrong to continue bringing those avoidable problems into the world. It's a well known case that IQ lowers when white and black races mix. Blacks have a naturally lower IQ than whites, and the offspring of the 2 is lower than the white's and somewhat higher than the blacks. If you look around online and spend more time among average people(i.e. not your typical college/university crowd) you should be able to notice the differences in behavior/intelligence among races of people. https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_health_consequences_of_race_mixing/

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  • What do you say about evidence that links a more advanced society and socio economic class to a higher IQ.

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  • What evidence is there for that, besides common reasoning of course, if I may ask? I agree with the notion, but IQ is not the sole factor in the success of a society. For example, the Asian people have a high average IQ naturally, but they weren't able to make the rapid technological advances Europe did.

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  • Edited by Oak_Khan: 4/10/2016 12:24:51 AM
    Asians in higher developed countries have higher IQ's than their counterparts The same go for blacks A few Asian countries have a culture that places a lot of respect on intelligence and they have a higher IQ than cultures that place a higher emphasis on hard work like the more rural focused countries. This is why it is theorized as for the reason Jews have the highest IQ's as there is evidence for this exact culture shift. Another example is the lower IQ's of whites who live in poor Eastern European countries. And the lower IQ's of the impoverished whites of the south(i.e. Rednecks for short) Then you take in the fact that IQ's have steadily rose in relation with technological advances and spreading of wealth over the years. As for technological advances of the past, European and middle Eastern people saw the fastest rise in technology and IQ among all other groups. They were still exceptions like the Gauls who remained stuck in time for years and were on the same level as the tribes of Africa and Asian Mongols. Anyway a similarity the Europeans and middle easterners shared was their region of development, which were both the most hostile to the human frame. Really pays homage to the phrase hottest fires make sharpest steel. So it is theorized that due to that they had to adapt faster than other groups, in a sense giving them an early start to the race, but as man has evolved to tame their environment towards their needs the other groups have steadily caught up and trends have shown that if the same conditions are placed over a long amount of time, IQ's range start to plateau.

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  • [quote]A few Asian countries have a culture that places a lot of respect on intelligence and they have a higher IQ than cultures that place a higher emphasis on hard work like the more rural focused countries. [/quote] But Asians in history had a lot of focus on farming. Watching over the rice paddies was very meticulous work. [quote]European and middle Eastern people saw the fastest rise in technology and IQ among all other groups. They were still exceptions like the Gauls who remained stuck in time for years and were on the same level as the tribes of Africa and Asian Mongols. [/quote] Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the African tribes have no technology equivalent to what the Mongols made?(I cannot speak on the Gauls) [quote]So it is theorized that due to that they had to adapt faster than other groups, in a sense giving them an early start to the race, but as man has evolved to tame their environment towards their needs the other groups have steadily caught up and trends have shown that if the same conditions are placed over a long amount of time, IQ's range start to plateau.[/quote] All fine and sensible, but how long would such a thing take? Africa is still the world's dumpster when it comes to quality of conditions, despite numerous attempts over the past few centuries to change that. European colonization and building efforts in Africa started well before 1900, and all those attempts ended in disaster for both sides. Recently China began getting involved in Africa, and they face many obstacles and their seems to be little sign of things changing for the better in the attitudes of the native people. There is also great struggle in the Middle East and North Africa, which both have been in contact with Europe for well over a millennium and if the IQ really has gone up to be comparable to Europeans it has not shown itself in the people's actions. I'd be overjoyed if every region on earth had people of around the same high IQ as Europeans or Asians, but I am not convinced that is happening in any rapid manner.

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  • Yes but don't forget that many Asians countries had a caste like system. I might be thinking of another group and not Mongols then, I can't remember this reply was made awhile ago. Don't forget the inner workings of colonization and its effect when factoring in this change. Study time of independence and technological change and you will see it is moving steadily. A lot of those countries became independent in the 60's. IQ's the level of Asian countries would be preferable European countries aren't that impressive once you look at average IQ's county wise then take the IQ's of top colleges. But yeah, in a few years it will all plateau out, naturally the hill will be steeper as our technological advances are moving faster than natural progression.

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  • These statistics do not take into account human culture, historic events, or outside influence. I'll tell you this, if blacks in America had a better history (which was one forced onto them) than the outcome of these studies would be different.

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  • Than why do the Irish do so well despite being enslaved exactly like Africans?

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  • Again, it's a culture thing. Africans, specifically in America, were different visually. Because of that, they were viewed as lesser beings. The Irish could integrate into society because they were white. Even in recent history, Blacks weren't viewed as equal citizens and were denied opportunities because of it. 50 years ago, a black man could not get the same job a white man could because he was black. Case and point. Those people who were denied opportunities are still alive today, and their culture is heavily influenced by this. Those old people teach their kids that they don't get opportunities, because they didn't. It's a cycle that you are just pretending never happened.

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  • Are you completely unaware of how the Irish were treated and viewed as subhumans like blacks? Do they not teach this in US History anymore? Please go on and explain to me how there's genetics for being gay and other things but nothing for intelligence. http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v14/n6/full/5201588a.html https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/traits/intelligence

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  • Well it's obvious that you are a completely incoherent Racist. I don't see any point in continuing down to your level.

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  • Edited by Assassin 11D7: 4/9/2016 8:06:12 PM
    Nice argument completely dismissing my points and having no real substance while resorting to ad hominems. You sure are progressive.

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