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originally posted in: If you post 325+ for hard raid
4/15/2016 12:14:41 PM
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When people post for high levels when doing the raid, they are not necessarily interested in the level but the experience that comes with being such a high level. Before the update I was 319 on all characters. Only the lack of a 320 class item prevented me from being 320. I think I have done kings fall over 70 times. And it's almost impossible not to be a high level when completing the raid that many times. If a guardian at 309 joins your raid group chances are he won't understand the mechanics to the full. Because if he had completed it many times, then his light level would naturally be higher. I'm all for helping newbies through the raid, but there are occasions when time is of the essence, and you need to get through it quickly. So maybe this is why people ask for 320 + since the person will have completed the raid many times. And since everyone is experienced, a death here or there doesn't mean a wipe as everyone will know how to adapt.
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  • Edited by Ryder of Rohan: 4/15/2016 2:35:56 PM
    Well no s***, once again, you overlook my point. Take the number 80 out of it. My point still remains, that you simply can't look at a number and know for sure someone knows what they are doing. No matter how improbably, the statistical opportunity for that to be the case still exists.

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    I did take the number 80 out of it? I used general numbers. and I just said you could look at a number and be sure of that. if someone completed it twice, they Might know what to do, might not. if someone completed it 80 times. They clearly know what to do, since it's highly unlikely that they were "carried" 80 times in random groups each time

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  • Edited by Ryder of Rohan: 4/15/2016 2:44:16 PM
    Your response doesn't even make sense. The word [u]clearly[/u] represents an absolute. This means without a doubt and for fact. If at 80 it is a fact they know what they are doing, where is the absolute number where it becomes statistically impossible for them to not know what they are doing? Then you follow up clearly with "highly unlikely". This means that it's not an absolute. So, which is it?

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    It might not make sense for someone still in high school I guess. really bro I don't know how many times I have to say the same thing.

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  • Edited by Ryder of Rohan: 4/15/2016 2:54:58 PM
    See there, you have no point, and can't even make sense in your own retorts. You say there is "clearly" a number where it's impossible that someone is carried, yet can't give me an exact number as this would be required for an absolute statement. Not only that, but you contradict your own absolute by using a non-absolute quantity designation in the same sentence. The fact is, you responded to my post, by running your mouth about statistics and can't even back up your own claims. Then in a last ditch attempt to reassert yourself you fall back to Trump like personal jabs in hopes something sticks with the people who read your false statements.

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    lol personal jabs. me saying I don't want to repeat myself like I have the past few posts saying the same thing that you can't grasp isn't a personal jab. there is a clear number of competitions that you can do where someone can easily assume that you know what you are doing, I am not able to make that call for everyone on what that number is bro. but saying someone that did it 80 times could still suck cause they "got carried" is foolish and I hope you know that. if I wanted to do a personal jab at you I would say you suck since you said you only have 1 raid competition and also said you spent hours in the raid, that means you are bad

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  • Once again, if you say there is a clear number, that means it's a constant. A constant can't be different on multiple Plains. The personal jabs, was an attempt to belittle someone's point due to age. I get what you are saying. In fact I get it so much, I have picked it apart with ease. The only response you can come up with is that I don't get it. So sad. Also, since you say that the clear number is different for everyone, I would have to invoke your horrid logic, and say my clear number is 1, so that means I don't suck. See how that works??

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  • Edited by Bob: 4/15/2016 3:24:41 PM
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    that doesn't mean it is a constant bro. you have some weird logic going on there is a clear point when someone is happy. yet that point is different for each person. maybe you should learn something in school and not be on the forums If you think the clear point is 1 for you, then you can make your raid time asking for someone that has done it just once, (many people do that you see?)

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  • clear ˈklir/ adverb 1. so as to be out of the way of or away from. "he leapt clear of the car" synonyms: away from, apart from, at a (safe) distance from, out of contact with "stand clear of the doors" 2. completely. "he had time to get clear away" synonyms: completely, entirely, fully, wholly, totally, utterly; informalclean "he has time to get clear away" I believe that shows clear as a synonym for a constant...bro

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  • Edited by Bob: 4/15/2016 3:38:03 PM
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    lol here I will use a synonym in a sentence for you "he is wholly happy with his life" what is it? can I say the same about a female and it be the same constant? no it's different bro. stay in school [spoiler]there is a reason it didn't list constant as a synonym[/spoiler]

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  • Edited by Ryder of Rohan: 4/15/2016 3:45:25 PM
    Okay, now include the word point. Plus your example isn't speaking in regards to a quantifiable amount. Do you understand the difference between arguing an absolute on a quantifiable amount versus an emotional state? Just stop already. You can attempt to bend it and twist it however you want. The fact remains the same. You have said repeatedly that there is a clear number, yet can't provide one. What is your hard on with my education level? Does a point become more valid once high school is completed? If that is the case, what about GED graduates? What courses in high school complete my education enough to have a valid point as compared to college? Let's see you break that one down.

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    lol I can't any longer. you can't grasp simple concepts, the public system has failed you clearly oh well I am done

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  • That's what I thought. Your logic sucks, and you can't even back up your insult attempts. Clearly, you were/are/will be a child left behind. I have no idea how old you are, and don't care, because there is no quantifiable age that can be used as a reasoning for your stupidity.

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