Once again, if you say there is a clear number, that means it's a constant. A constant can't be different on multiple Plains. The personal jabs, was an attempt to belittle someone's point due to age. I get what you are saying. In fact I get it so much, I have picked it apart with ease. The only response you can come up with is that I don't get it. So sad. Also, since you say that the clear number is different for everyone, I would have to invoke your horrid logic, and say my clear number is 1, so that means I don't suck. See how that works??