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4/18/2016 12:11:47 PM
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Issues with Hawkmoon
The Fact that the whole gun itself is based off luck and not skill. (This is no nerf post). I hope we could have new guns only the competitive part of the community can use like NLB and TLW. Hence its the reason why you never see people like Rip Apollo (The Guy that wants a year 2 Thorn when he posted about it) use something like TLW and NLB. Come fight me all you want‚ but I want my post to be discussed as civilized as possible as there might be chances that this post might be touched by competitive PvP players
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Last word is an excellent general purpose hand cannon, the lucky rounds only make it better.
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The issue with Hawkmoon is that it doesn't have explosive rounds, firefly and an arc burn.
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3 RepliesBahahaha hawk moon takes less skill than tlw, bahahahaa
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2 RepliesFunny how people only complain about hawkmoon now, it has had extra damage bullets throughout the entirety of its existence and nobody actually complained until now.
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5 RepliesEdited by Valek27: 4/24/2016 1:24:51 PMI fail to see how hawkmoon isn't based off of skill. Especially compared to weapons like doctrine and mida which are basically just spray weapons. I disagree and think that any non full auto primary weapon that requires headshots to be competitve takes skill to use. Hawkmoon take a decent amount of skill to land headshots. Not to mention you have to know the ranges. It's not like year 1 with crazy range and very little dropoff. The only real luck factor was year 1 when you could 1 shot people. As it is now it's pretty much a consistent 3 shot kill like most handcannons. Occasionally you can get lucky and get a 2 shot kill. But this is much, much rarer now that it requires 2 lucky rounds. Year 1 was a pretty consistent 2 shot kill. Which even then was fine because you could outgun thorns with it. If you were good. For a good majority of year 2 the only handcannon that could compete was tlw. That's a sad state for a weapon class when there is only 1 valid option.
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12 RepliesShut your belove 1 kd mouth. Hawkmoon is fine. If anything they need to undo the litc nerfs on it. Go suck dattos cock.
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No no no. Using the gun actually requires more skill to use, not less. The lucky rounds mean nothing if you don't know how to shoot the gun.
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2 RepliesSo in year 1 this was op right?
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Edited by iNaCl: 4/18/2016 2:40:26 PMTLW is a competitive weapon and it did its job well and in competitive play took skill to use. But people who run pubs after playing 20h of pve complain about last word because they keep dying to TLW (and probably the same person by doing the same mistake) and then post nerf post. And no land my second fav weapon underrated (well if you got skills) but I'm still salty TLW was needed because of cry baby pve player. Hackmoon is banned from sweaties anyways
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Post is about hawkmoon issues Makes one point about hawkmoon
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Hawkmoon is a beast it just need more aim assist imo. I played against 3 hawkmoons in trials and they could not hit me once :D
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Oh yeah tlw is soooo hard to use
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2 RepliesThere's still quite a bit of skill involved with the Hawkmoon. The only way to be two tapped is two shots with aggressive ballistics with one being to the head or two lucky shots to the head with accurized/field choke. The two lucky shots back to back is very rare and using aggressive is just asking for phantom bullets, and having no range once again. Most of the time it's a three shot. Not too many "sweaty" players use Hawkmoon because Thorn/TLW are still consistently better than it. I can see where you're coming from though, because sometimes those lucky shots will kill you when you have the upper hand. But to say it's based off luck and not skill is not true.
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11 RepliesHawkmoon is in a good spot spot arm. Also what do you mean by new guns such as TLW and NLB? They aren't new.
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2 RepliesHawkmoon's perks activate at random yes but if you can't land your shots then it doesn't matter. You still need gun skill to land the shots and I've missed on the lucky shots. Nothing worse.
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Well if you can't hit anything in the first place that perk is useless. So no. It's not all luck.
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3 Repliessome people seem to be able to shoot hawk moon in full auto, like tlw that takes skill, I have yet to figure out how to do so
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Issues with Hawkmoon: It's a hand cannon
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And note to self. The original poster (which is basically me) this might or this could really be your first time to hear a completely brutally honest opinion on a person experienced with the weapon and Hand Cannons in general.
