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Edited by SK8ITUP53:
4/29/2016 4:29:29 PM
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Edit: I am speaking about how online translates to real life, and not saying this is causation for her getting kicked, but merely a correlation between what she thinks is happening and why she has reason to POSSIBLY think that.
There is a real issue in gaming and the computer science field right now for women. They are under represented and are harassed and verbally assaulted constantly. I'm sure someone has already called you an attention whore on this thread for simply saying you are female. I do not think you are being kicked because you are a girl in this case, confounding variables are at play I think. However it does at least bring the issue up. I've seen some brutally cruel things being said towards women on xbox live and on the forums.
Side note- I bet that if you put the guys who say these thing or act this way online physically in front of the woman, they would: A. Not be able to say it to your face and B. Probably not even talk to you because girls are intimidating to them and they have no idea how to handle themselves.
Hopefully it's not because of these things, but it really pisses me off. Guys either cream themselves because they found a girl gamer and just want to get in their pants, or they immediately jump to harassment. I hope this doesn't keep happening (by that I mean the way some gamers use the Internet to speak to women), and from the guys who aren't scum, we apologize for their behavior. Add me, I'm always down to play regardless of who it is as long as you aren't just super bad.
[spoiler]I'm not good so that's easy lol[/spoiler]
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Oh man, don't you just love stereotypes, generalisations and parading things as facts with no evidence? I sure do
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Go home. I am a software and game developer, so I see this first hand. Also if you go looking you can find NUMEROUS studies, articles, scholarly journals, and personal accounts of this issue. One of the courses I had to take for my C.S. degree had an entire 3 weeks dedicated to the issues of women in the technology field. So it is fact, and you obviously don't care whether it is or not. So either go learn something and be a decent human being, or do the world a favor and keep your mouth shut. Thanks.
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Your coarse was complete trash then, as a concept artist I have never seen this stuff happen, only people like you claiming it happens all the time.
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Your experience is not everyone else's. I'm not saying everyone is like this. I'm saying it's a real issue, not an imaginary one. Have you not seen or heard the things that people post, say, and respond to online that has anything to do with women? It's not some crazy rampant thing don't get me wrong. But simply calling it a stereotype and dismissing it is not accurate.
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Online is not a real depiction of what happens in real life, yes my experience doesn't account for everyone's but you exaggerate the issue.
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You are correct there. In real life this is not quite the case. But I am talking about online and the translation of that into real life. Most people who say anything online about another person would not say it to that person's face, regardless of who they are. The type of people who are misogynistic online are more likely to have poor in person communication skills and will more likely be as I described to women in real life. In real life you are right, people aren't just openly harassing and verbally assaulting women for just being women. I think we were talking about 2 different ideas, but your point is valid too.
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Even online you are exaggerating, as you can see in this thread people are pointing out that it isn't anything to do with the persons gender but actually their skill at the raid. Don't say that if it was a man that people wouldn't look at their stats because that's plain wrong as proven by people using k/d in arguments. Saying that someone might get kicked from a raid due to skill,not gender, isn't misogynistic. Neither is disagreeing with someone's opinions.
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Oh yeah I'm not saying that she's getting kicked because she is a girl. It's most likely because of her stats, no doubt. That's why I said "I don't think this is happening, but...". It brings up the issue of it and it does happen. So I brought it up. It's not the causation of the OP's issue, but it is a correlated problem which deserved to be mentioned. I'll edit my first reply so it more accurately depicts why I was bringing it up. Like I said you aren't wrong, but I think we were considering different things, due to a lack of specification on my part. Great points man, seriously. [spoiler]Oh wait I'm supposed to say GIT GUD SCRUB! Not use logic and have an intelligent debate. Damn failed again! Lol [/spoiler]
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Thanks I guess, still though it is a half and half thing, it's not entirely related but you brought it up anyway. Sure it does happen but shitty people are shitty people, people are generally rude on the Internet, that's why the mute/block feature exists. [spoiler]1v1 me dark souls, I'll show you git gud[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]You would murder me in dark souls because I suck at it and only played it a few times[/spoiler] [spoiler]MUTED because I can't play haha Hahaha[/spoiler]
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[quote]Oh man, don't you just love stereotypes, generalisations and parading things as facts with no evidence? I sure do[/quote] Look how defensive you got. I think these generalisations are spot on.
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They really are. Nobody is dying so it's not like the world is ending. Thanks man.
