Ok so if you were at the end of the raid 4th orbs Oryx and some one said you were red barring you'd just drop? Since that's unfair to the group? I've red barred on a 1gig (Google fiber 1gbps test site) because the host was in Europe. Get over it it's part of online gaming. Rocket league is horrible all the console players sit at 87ping and I get 41 ping on a bad day so console should stop playing rocket league? Eso PvP is well over 300 ping and people still enjoy it. Considering 90 ping is red bar in destiny and anything sub 100 is less than a tenth of a second latency get of your soap box and stop trying too start fires.