I'd love to see someone post a great caster or hybrid build that's totally effective in PVP. In previous soulsborne games I always gravitated toward hybrids, myself, but in DS3 I just haven't found them to be all that great. Really seems like quality builds, maybe only using magic for buffs is the way to go. Either that, or fully commit to a caster type build. Lots of builds can be viable for PVE, and playing whatever is the most fun is usually best, but PVP is another matter. In PVP, you're in direct competition with others, and the goal is to win. Skill will almost always best a great weapon or build, but skill isn't everything, because some things just put you at such a strong disadvantage. I've run across a wide variety of opponents in PVP, but the ones I've faced who appeared to be full hybrids or casters were noticeably easier to beat. Would be awesome to see someone who's found a way to make it work as well as a melee/quality type thing.