The reason I brought up you main a hunter is don't try to know everything about the abilities if you hardly play that class. I barely play hunter so I'm not gonna say anything about their abilities because I don't know much about them. As for shoulder charge, it's not classified as a melee as it's in a different perk tree. It has a charge up time and a cold down time. It's very high risk/high reward and it's very easy to counter.

Yet you still get the benefits of the melee perk tree?! If it's not considered part of the melee ability it shouldn't grant that perk as a result of using it imo. And yeah ok in trials etc its not that much of a problem and every class has its own thing yadayada, but my main point Is shotgun+juggernaut+twilight makes it more like, little risk high reward. The shield for juggernaut takes a headshot to take off alone which is dumb imo too.

You started complaining about shoulder charge now its juggetnaut? Make up your mind what you wanna complain about man